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Hello there.
Im going to a 1250 tournament.
Do you think that my list is a competitive one?, they're Iron Warriors.

- Abaddon the Despoiler
- 10 Cultists
- 10 Cultists
- 1 Heldrake with baleflamer
- 3 Obliterators MoN --- they are going to deep strike with Abaddon
- 6 Havocs MoN with 4 lascannons and Icon of Vengeance
- 5 Havocs MoN with 4 lascannons and Icon of Vengeance
- Aegis defence line with quad-gun

I think there will be kill points misions only and not objective-control ones. A lot of power gamers and cheesy lists.
What do you guys think?

 
   
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Well, not a bad list. However, I'd take autocannons instead of lascannons for your Havocs.

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Auto cannons are better on havocs because if you want lascannons you take oblits. Oblits don't have access to auto cannons which is why you take havocs I also think you could do with more solid troops choices. 2 squads of 10 cultists won't stand up to much at all. And I don't see what abbaddon brings to the list other than being a point sink. Your oblits want to be shooting every turn and abbaddon wants to be in combat so that's a bad pairing straight away.
   
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Swap Abaddon for a Mon wizard and get some awesome buffs,
with the points left over buff up the cultist squads which will help them last longer.

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I'd give one squad of Havocs autocannon or some more flexability also I agree you need to buff the cultist squads or you are likley to lose both in one turn of shooting

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so everyone is raving about taking autocannons on your havocs. The reason for this is that you're paying 155 points for 4 lascannons on 5 space marines. Alternatively, you could buy 2 lascannons and a twin-linked lascannon for 140 points on a predator. You're losing basically half a lascannon for more durability and 15 points. 20 points per lascannon on models that die to 9 bolter shots is just too expensive. Autocannons are cheap and powerful. Predators take full use of their points, being cheap due to having high armor only in the front, which is the only place they will take fire, because you will position them well because they have high range.

I wouldnt take an icon of vengeance on the havocs. If you're losing 3 havocs in a single round of shooting, whats left isnt worth spending 35 extra points to give them one more round of shooting, granted the one with the mark didnt die. If you're going to spend more points on a havoc squad, give them MoN or more bodies to take shots. dont worry about buying Icon of Veng or Veterans of the Long War.

You dont want to put abaddon in a squad of obliterators. Obliterators work best in shooting and abby in CC. They just dont work well together. If you want to deepstrike in the oblits for melta and TL flamer goodness, fine, but dont put them in cc.

id replace abby with a sorcerer and hope for invisibilty. Stick everything behind the ADL and use invis for a 2+ cover save on whatever unit you want. The sorcerer can also give fearless to whichever unit. Consider a vindicator.

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