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So before people go mental at the fact i suggested this. I'm not saying that it should be done i'm saying it could be a brilliant series.

My idea would be a time war series. It would basically be set in the time war when the Daleks fought the Timelords. You could do so much with it. MY idea would be a more gritty violence battle between the daleks and the timelords. You could have the doctor or have a new lead (I think John Hurt might be good). I would just think it could be done so well and a more gritty version (kind of like torchwood).

So what would be your Idea for a spin off Series.

Oh and don't hate its just my opinion

Someone just finished watching the 50th, eh?

I would agree though. The fall of Arcadia was a brilliant bit.

 Kanluwen wrote:
Someone just finished watching the 50th, eh?

I would agree though. The fall of Arcadia was a brilliant bit.

Yh i kind of fell out of it recently just around pandorica i think. But yh i got back on to it for the new Doctor

I would love something like this, even before seeing the 50th, and especially with Hurt as the Doctor (he was brilliant). The Time War stuff we saw looked amazing, easily as visually impressive as anything in Star Wars/Star Trek/most other sci-fi.

I'd also love Paul McGann (Doctor 8) to get a proper series, the mini-episode last week shows he's still got what it takes, and a show that looks at the Time War from the outside would be just as good. It could even lead into a Hurt-led Time War series. McGann has, I believe, said in the last few days he would consider something like this if offered and if the writing was good enough (I'd like to see Mark Gatiss as head writer)

I wouldn't say it would need to be any gritter/darker, as Dr Who can be plenty dark when it wants to (The Empty Child episode springs to mind). It certainly wouldn't need to go anywhere near Torchwood territory, and besides, that's certificate was generally more for the language and adult themes than actual violence.

But yeah, it's be a great show. I doubt it would happen, but we can only hope.

As long as Torchwood stays 6 feet under...

Not a fan MGS? I reckon it was a great few series, but Children of Earth...damn that was depressing. Lets see if the new doctor brings the depressing stuff from that to his new role, eh? Crying every episode if that is the case.

To be fair, I've not seen children of earth onwards.

But I really dislike what RTD did and his tropes and Torchwood was like all the things I hated about his Dr Who amplified. I had really high hopes for Torchwood, when it was advertised as Dark, edgy and adult scifi, but watching it was just RTD and his weird mary sue/crush on Capt Jack, some swearing, Wales and endlessly reusing the same fething alien in the boiler suit (weevil?).

I thought it was gak.

Torchwood got less campy with Children of Earth, and the Starz series. I really didn't like the Starz one though. They took the homosexual element way to far IMO.

I can't get into Torchwood. Like MGS said, it's so branded with RTD's style* that's is pretty much unwatchable for me. Too much Hallmark sentimentality and gobs of cheesy campyness. RTD is pretty overrated. I kinda think that the reason so many Whovians are in love with him is the fact that he got to direct Tennant, who was and still is a brilliant actor and better Doctor.

That aside, I'd love to see a Paul McGann/8th Doctor miniseries. He was frakking brilliant in the short, and had me hooked for the entire 7 minutes.

~Tim?


*which I really, really, really can't get into and kinda loathe.

Yeah, Torchwood was very hit-and-miss. I did like Children of Earth, as the pacing was nice and the plot had some good elements. Miracle Day was terrible, took the traditional RTD themes far too far. I haven't seen any of the earlier stuff, but I don't really feel any need to.

I keep reading more and more snippets that point to Eccleston leaving due to one reason, RTD... Which is a shame, as I liked his Doctor best of the new ones so far (I suspect that a certain Scottish chappie is going to exceed my expectations though).

This so perfectly captures all that I hate about his meddlesome nonsense.



With the addition of treating Freema Agyeman like dirt, and she's probably my favorite assistant of all time. (this can be argued to fall under the 'doctor mopes for billie piper).

To be fair, most of those could be applied to moffat's era as well. Not so much the Piper bit, but certainly things like 'deus ex sonic'.

Also, some of those are fair enough given the character/setting. The Doctor does have combat skills (Venusian Karate, anyone?), the TARDIS is technically alive, news bulletins are an effective way to convey worldwide events.

That said, Martha Jones getting sidelined due to not being Rose was a waste of a great character.

 Paradigm wrote:

That said, Martha Jones getting sidelined due to not being Rose was a waste of a great character.

And then having Donna Noble in there... UGH. Personally, the companions for nuWho should have been Martha, followed by Amelia Pond, followed by Clara.

I mean, I get that Rose is supposed to be a trashy, welfare child with no future ahead of her, but seriously I think it was a bit over the top, and I just don't think she looks that good to begin with.

 Ensis Ferrae wrote:

 Paradigm wrote:

That said, Martha Jones getting sidelined due to not being Rose was a waste of a great character.

And then having Donna Noble in there... UGH. Personally, the companions for nuWho should have been Martha, followed by Amelia Pond, followed by Clara.

I mean, I get that Rose is supposed to be a trashy, welfare child with no future ahead of her, but seriously I think it was a bit over the top, and I just don't think she looks that good to begin with.

I actually kind of liked Donna as a character, it was good to have a companion who wasn't romantically involved with the Doctor. Rose kind of made sense being that close to the Doctor so soon after the Time War (not to say I liked the idea), but Martha loving him was emphasised far too heavily. On the whole, I don't like the idea of Doctor-companion romance, it's not what the character should be about.

I didn't like Pond at the time, but in hindsight she was ok. I can't stand Clara at all, she seems to have no character, and was really more of a plot device than a character. Hopefully she'll get better now the whole 'Impossible Girl' subplot has been resolved. The version of her in Asylum of the Daleks and The Snowmen were actually far better performances than the 'current' one, so she's clearly capable of doing well, but her scripts are just poor.

Donna Noble was awful. Terrible character, ridiculous over the top noise making and between her being loud and Tennant gurning like a fool I switched off mentally for most of her episodes.

The inexplicable falling for the Doctor by Martha, a successful, intelligent and extremely capable character, was annoying. The forced pining for the Doctor, the rebound girlfriend role and the endless weird deification of Rose's memory (I was expecting a little shrine aboard the tardis to be revealed at any stage), really let her character down.

I was glad they at least made her a UNIT officer but even then, RTD can't help but tinker poorly, very bloody poorly, and cobble her together with Rose's ex-boyfriend Mickey, which I hope was to try and leave both 'unwanteds' together with each other but looked for all the world like throwing the two black characters together in a rush to tie up loose ends...

I liked Donna. She was a needed switch at the Companion role. I also thought her "resolution" was very troubling. She lived all these exciting adventures and learned her worth as a person to only have to forget it all. :(

 Easy E wrote:
I liked Donna. She was a needed switch at the Companion role. I also thought her "resolution" was very troubling. She lived all these exciting adventures and learned her worth as a person to only have to forget it all. :(

I like Donna, she was a old school style companion. Likely why she didn't last long.

I too enjoyed Donna, and was saddened by how her companionship was resolved...

Also shed a bit of a tear at the way they 'offed' Amy and Rory.

Yeah, I keep hearing how sad Amy and Rory's ending was, but really, I think it was a good ending. They didn't die, and they still got to grow old together. In the end, that was all they wanted. They had been trying to start a normal, non-Doctor life, and locked away in the past, they could do that.

I also didn't mind Donna. She's not my favorite, but she was a very different kinda companion for the Doctor, and I really appreciated that. She was certainly the polar opposite of Rose.

~Tim?

Donna grew on me with repeated trips through the series... She's still irritating, but to a certain extent she's supposed to be. But that final episode when she went all Time Lord was almost enough to make the previous irritation worthwhile...


As for the original post... McGann I can take or leave, but I would love to see more of John Hurt's Doctor.

Personally I'd love to see a spinoff series that covers the regenerations prior to where the show began, that mysterious past before Echelson.

Having watched the 'five-ish Doctors reboot', a series with McCoy, Baker and Davidson bumbling around time and space would be amazing.

Doctor McCoy would make a great companion.

 AduroT wrote:
Personally I'd love to see a spinoff series that covers the regenerations prior to where the show began, that mysterious past before Echelson.

That would be called "Classic Doctor Who" and its first seasons are played by William Hartnell


Though part of me seriously wonders, if the "1st Doctor" (Hartnell) was supposed to be some 5 or 600 years old or whatever... he seems to go through a gak load of regenerations in a short period of time (for a time lord) What happened before he became "The Doctor"??

 Ensis Ferrae wrote:
Though part of me seriously wonders, if the "1st Doctor" (Hartnell) was supposed to be some 5 or 600 years old or whatever... he seems to go through a gak load of regenerations in a short period of time (for a time lord) What happened before he became "The Doctor"??

The show doesn't cover all of the time that he spends in each regeneration. According to the 50th special, there are some 400 years or so between the 9th and 12th Doctor... but you really wouldn't figure that from just watching the series.

 insaniak wrote:

The show doesn't cover all of the time that he spends in each regeneration. According to the 50th special, there are some 400 years or so between the 9th and 12th Doctor... but you really wouldn't figure that from just watching the series.

Granted, but when the first episodes started with him being about 600 or so.... Plus, the War Doctor says he's 400 years younger than the MS Doctor who is ~1200 (or so, unless he's lying about his age, because he's so old he lies about his age now), that means that the doctor has gone through 11-12 regenerations (forced or otherwise) in 600 years? I get that the show doesnt show each day of his regeneration cycle, but for the most part, they show highlighted periods of his time. So for instance, we know in The Impossible Astronaut that the MS doctor spends at least 300 or so years in that body. (he says in one episode prior to that that he's about 900, then he's about 1200 in Astronaut)

I would like a Spinoff show about UNIT. Of course, I would have wanted it back around the time of the 3rd Doctor.

Also, Donna really helped me understand why the Doctor "needed" companions as a personal check and a sort of conscience on where the lines need to be drawn.

Time war spinoff would be amazing, but I don't think a TV exec (especially not a UK one) would ever let a high-budget sci-fi with that much in the way of special effects even come close to getting greenlit these days.

I am really missing that kind of show with lots of spaceships and lasers, it scratches an itch that nothing else can.

There has always been *something* awesome to watch in terms of a pew-pew spaceship show, either Trek, Stargate, Farscape or BSG, not so much anymore, and "sci-fi" seems to mean "low budget ghost/ werewolf/ vampire soap opera" or "Whatever the hell shows like Revolution and Defiance are supposed to be".