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If the Emperor had a model what stats it should have?

Emperor - 5 points. WS1 BS1 S1 T1 A1 I1 W1 LD1 SV-

Special rules: Independent character

"I am a living god" Roll a die, on a 1-6, you win because the enemy's army drops dead from getting near him.

The God Emperor of Mankind (M41)
300 pts

WS: 0 BS: 0 S: 1 T: 1 W: 1 I: 1 LD: 10 SV: 2+/2++

Wargear:
The Emperor's Armor
Golden Halo


Special Rules:
The Carrion Lord
Golden Throne of Terra

The Carrion Lord:
The God Emperor of Mankind, despite being all but a corpse, still inspires bravery in his troops. While he is in play all units from Codex: Space Marines, Codex: Space Wolves, Codex: Blood Angels, Codex Dark Angels, Codex: Imperial Guard, Codex: Adepta Soritas, Codex: Inquisition and Codex: Grey Knights gain Stubborn, Fearless, LD: 10, Furious Charge and Hatred. However, should the Emperor be killed units from said codices may never be played again in that store/club as the Imperium has fallen due to the loss of the Astronomicon. In addition, if the enemy player's main detatchment is from Codex: Chaos Space Marines then he automatically wins the game since he has fullfilled the ultimate goal of the Chaos Legions.

Golden Throne of Terra:
The Emperor is forever bound to the Golden Throne. He may never move from his initial deployment (How he got there is a mystery) for any reason.

Emperor - 20 points

WS: 0 BS: 0 S: 0 T: 0 W: 47 I: 1 LD: 10 SV: 0+

War Gear:
Pimp Throne
Heaps of wires
Tattered robes

Special rules:
Very very slow and possibly purposeful
It will not die (seriously, it won't)

Very very slow and possibly purposeful - The emperor is encased in a throne, therefore the emperor starts in reserve and doesn't enter until turn 1048.

It will not die (seriously, it won't) - his body is already all but destroyed, giving him a 0+ Invulnerable save.

For current games.... Only as a terrain piece if the battle happens to be fought in the throne room. Maybe do one as some sort of display piece the way forgeworld did some of the busts.

Speaking of forgeworld, they are doing the primarchs so it might be possible (but not likely) that they do a pre-throne model of him. Couldn't seriously conjecture on stats and abilities.

FW have said they're doing the Emperor at some point, probably towards the end of the HH series. No idea on the stats, but it's almost certainly going to be an amazing models.

The Emporer almost got waked by a Ork Warboss once so he shouldn't be overly over the top. But most likly really good. I'd say look at current Primarchs and add just a little bit to WS, BS.

You should just a standard primarch's stats and make him psyker level 50 (Or some other ridiculous number)

Actually, just because of the way game designers like to put together rivalries sometimes, you could probably expect the Emperor to have similar stats to Horus, but inverted.

Like Horus will have WS 10 and the Emperor will have WS 9, but then Horus will have BS 9 and the Emperor will have BS 10.

Dumb things like that. As for skills, it'll probably some atypical emperor stuff. Pskyer lvl 5, because that's 2+ Deny the Witch, access to all abilities at a moments notice, multiple Witchfires in a shooting phase, Horus and the Emp will probably both avoid Perils, except when they are in proximity of each other. Then you'll probably have other skills and stuff that probably v. other primarchs as well, per story or perhaps per rivalry directly like Horus v Emprah.

I was thinking the Emprah could have a boon v. Magnus, but then that would suck and stack with the Space Wolves bonus, who are the rivals to Thousand Sons.

How about the Emperor when he was still alive?

Orkhead wrote:
The Emporer almost got waked by a Ork Warboss once so he shouldn't be overly over the top. But most likly really good. I'd say look at current Primarchs and add just a little bit to WS, BS.

and yet the descriptions of the emperor's psychic might make it obvious that the emperor could easily simply crush the ork with his mind.

40k fluff is very inconsistant...

Nothing is going to be as inconsistent as the description of bolter shells. Depending on the source, they vary from bouncing off tougher ork boyz to blowing big holes into tanks and turning a chaos space marine into red fog.

in theory it should be similar to Aun'Va
hes an old man who inspires troops... that is all

 TheRedWingArmada wrote:
Actually, just because of the way game designers like to put together rivalries sometimes, you could probably expect the Emperor to have similar stats to Horus, but inverted.

Like Horus will have WS 10 and the Emperor will have WS 9, but then Horus will have BS 9 and the Emperor will have BS 10.

Dumb things like that. As for skills, it'll probably some atypical emperor stuff. Pskyer lvl 5, because that's 2+ Deny the Witch, access to all abilities at a moments notice, multiple Witchfires in a shooting phase, Horus and the Emp will probably both avoid Perils, except when they are in proximity of each other. Then you'll probably have other skills and stuff that probably v. other primarchs as well, per story or perhaps per rivalry directly like Horus v Emprah.

I was thinking the Emprah could have a boon v. Magnus, but then that would suck and stack with the Space Wolves bonus, who are the rivals to Thousand Sons.

He should have a rule with his psyker level 5 that lets him use all 5 psyker charges at once to wipe out one enemy unit once in a game.

 TheRedWingArmada wrote:
Actually, just because of the way game designers like to put together rivalries sometimes, you could probably expect the Emperor to have similar stats to Horus, but inverted.

Like Horus will have WS 10 and the Emperor will have WS 9, but then Horus will have BS 9 and the Emperor will have BS 10.

Dumb things like that. As for skills, it'll probably some atypical emperor stuff. Pskyer lvl 5, because that's 2+ Deny the Witch, access to all abilities at a moments notice, multiple Witchfires in a shooting phase, Horus and the Emp will probably both avoid Perils, except when they are in proximity of each other. Then you'll probably have other skills and stuff that probably v. other primarchs as well, per story or perhaps per rivalry directly like Horus v Emprah.

I was thinking exactly this the moment I saw the thread title. Really, The Emprah isn't the titan people ascribe him to be. He is (physically) marginally superior to a Primarch Champion of Chaos, having been killed by one in a long fight (the argument that "he faltered until he realised Horus had gone too far" is moot; Horus still managed to fatally injure him, it's not that he spontaneously died after Horus' attacks bounced off his manly chest). He still wore armour and wielded weapons. Also, although his power is formidable, let's not forget that his greatest feats of psychic prowess are not entirely his; he eats 1,000 psykers a day, and is empowered by innumerable humans worshiping him as a god.

EDIT: That isn't to say that Horus was by any means insignificant. It's just that people seem to think that The Emperor was to Primarchs what Primarchs are to regular Space Marines, or even more extreme than that. If he was, even Chaos-empowered Horus would have no hope of defeating him.

 Jidmah wrote:
Nothing is going to be as inconsistent as the description of bolter shells. Depending on the source, they vary from bouncing off tougher ork boyz to blowing big holes into tanks and turning a chaos space marine into red fog.

And that's the problem with cheap Communist labor: no quality control.