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http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/dec/2/lawmakers-suspect-fbi-is-impeding-irs-inquiry-targ/

The House’s chief investigator says the FBI is stonewalling his inquiry into whether the agency and the Internal Revenue Service targeted conservative group True the Vote for special scrutiny, and Rep. Darrell E. Issa is now threatening subpoenas to pry loose the information from FBI Director James B. Comey Jr.

Mr. Issa, California Republican, and Rep. Jim Jordan, Ohio Republican, are leading the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee’s IRS inquiry. They also said the FBI is refusing to turn over any documents related to its own investigation into the IRS, which began in the days after an auditor’s report revealed the tax agency had improperly targeted tea party groups for special scrutiny.

Six months after it began, the FBI’s investigation has resulted in no release of information. The congressmen said the FBI even rescinded an offer for an in-person briefing with the assistant director in charge of the investigation. The reversal, after the FBI consulted with the Justice Department, suggests political meddling, the two investigators said.

“The department’s tactics have impeded a congressional investigation and interfered with the committee’s access to documents and information. Obstructing a congressional investigation is a crime,” Mr. Issa and Mr. Jordan said in their letter to Mr. Comey, warning that if they don’t get the information they will use “compulsory” means.

They set a Dec. 16 deadline.
The FBI declined to comment on the congressional letter, saying the agency would respond in writing. The FBI did say its investigation into the IRS continues.
The Justice Department referred inquiries about its involvement to the FBI.

Mr. Issa, chairman of the House oversight committee, has been leading an investigation for months into the IRS targeting of conservative groups seeking tax-exempt status.

The internal auditor for the IRS reported in May that the agency asked inappropriately probing questions and delayed conservative groups’ applications — in some cases for three years.
After the revelations, the IRS promised to clean up its operations, and Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. ordered the FBI to open a criminal investigation.

At the same time, however, one of the conservative activists whose groups were targeted came forward to say that she was assailed by both the IRS and the FBI, as well as other federal agencies.
Catherine Engelbrecht was an officer in the King Street Patriots, which was seeking status as a 501(c)(4) social welfare organization, and True the Vote, which was seeking status as a 501(c)(3) charity.

Soon after True the Vote began pushing to clear rolls of ineligible voters, Ms. Engelbrecht said, she and her husband faced an occupational safety investigation into their company, an IRS audit of their company, repeated rounds of IRS questions about True the Vote’s activities, and six inquiries from the FBI about the King Street Patriots — including general inquiries and specific questions about someone who attended a group meeting.

“They basically got the full monte — all these agencies with everything she’s involved in,” said Cleta Mitchell, an attorney for True the Vote and counsel to the ActRight Legal Foundation.
After three years of waiting, True The Vote was granted nonprofit status this fall, but the King Street Patriots is still waiting. The group got another round of questions from the IRS in August, Ms. Mitchell said.

Mr. Issa and Mr. Jordan began pressing the FBI for information when former Director Robert S. Mueller III was unable to give any details, just days after Mr. Holder assigned the FBI to investigate. That lack of knowledge struck the congressmen as odd because the IRS story was dominating headlines at the time.

Saying they wanted to be kept in the loop as part of their oversight duties, Mr. Issa and Mr. Jordan sent a letter in September asking for more information on the broad IRS investigation and why the FBI had been looking into True the Vote and the King Street Patriots.

On Oct. 31, the FBI responded with a letter that didn’t mention Ms. Engelbrecht’s situation and gave brief details about the broader IRS investigation, saying Assistant Director Valeria Parlave, who oversees investigations opened by the Washington field office, was in charge, and had 11 special agents and one forensic accountant working for her.

The FBI said the documents Mr. Issa is seeking are part of the ongoing investigation and therefore “cannot be released at this time.”
In a follow-up conversation with committee investigators last month, FBI official Monique Kelso again refused to provide documents but said she would make Ms. Parlave, director of the field office, available for a briefing, according to the committee.

When the investigators emailed to follow up, one of her colleagues, Kirk Melquist, said he had run the idea by the Justice Department and was awaiting guidance. In a follow-up conversation Nov. 20, Ms. Kelso rescinded the offer of a briefing, Mr. Issa and Mr. Jordan say.

The congressmen said Ms. Kelso denied getting pressure from the Justice Department, but Mr. Melquist wouldn’t say one way or the other.
“The FBI’s withdrawal of its offer to have Ms. Parlave meet with Chairman Jordan, which came after Ms. Kelso admitting to contacting a senior political appointee at the Department of Justice about the proposed meeting, combined with Mr. Melquist’s statement that the FBI was awaiting ‘guidance’ from the department, suggests that senior DOJ officials may have inappropriately interfered,” the congressmen said.

The two lawmakers sent copies of their latest letter to the two top senators on the Senate Judiciary Committee, urging them to give extra scrutiny to Peter Kadzik, one of the Justice Department officials Ms. Kelso informed of the committee’s request for a briefing. Mr. Kadzik is up for a promotion within the Justice Department, and his nomination must pass Senate scrutiny.


 
   
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I am disgusted that True the Vote was given nonprofit status.

Also for a bit of fun, I suggest you look into Katherine Engelbrecht and her ties to an organization called "Groundswell".

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 Kanluwen wrote:
I am disgusted that True the Vote was given nonprofit status.

Also for a bit of fun, I suggest you look into Katherine Engelbrecht and her ties to an organization called "Groundswell".


Why? What's for profit about it?

 
   
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 cincydooley wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:
I am disgusted that True the Vote was given nonprofit status.

Also for a bit of fun, I suggest you look into Katherine Engelbrecht and her ties to an organization called "Groundswell".


Why? What's for profit about it?

"Organizations described in section 501(c)(3) are prohibited from conducting political campaign activities to intervene in elections to public office."

From the fact that True the Vote(and organizations with ties to TTV) have done things such as 'monitor' polling sites and issuing challenges to voters, they very much are "intervening in elections to public office".
   
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But that's not what the statue prohibits.

 
   
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I suppose that it is quite impressive that they got non-profit status given the conduct of the IRS.

 
   
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cincydooley wrote:But that's not what the statue prohibits.

The statute prohibits an organization to hold 501(c)(3) status and engage in political activity. When you are an organization that is being funded exclusively to engage in political activity such as massed mailings to registered voters and then 'challenging' any voter who does not reply to your mailings, you are engaged in political activity.

Dreadclaw69 wrote:I suppose that it is quite impressive that they got non-profit status given the conduct of the IRS.

If you get the limelight cast on you and start shouting about how it's a first amendment issue like Engelbrecht did it's not a huge surprise the IRS granted the status.

Does not change the fact that it is disgusting that such a group was given nonprofit status.
   
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I have a better idea. No tax free status unless you are a church or charity. There is no First Amendment right to freedom from taxation.

This would be a problem as it would de-employ many hardworking IRS agents...

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Are you just as disgusted that Media Matters for America was given nonprofit status as well?

All they do is political activities as well...


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 whembly wrote:
Are you just as disgusted that Media Matters for America was given nonprofit status as well?

All they do is political activities as well...


I'm looking into this, but so far the only instance I can see of challenges being made of MMFA's status is by Fox after MMFA's "War on Fox".

If they genuinely spend the majority of their contributions/funding on political activities that aid only one party? Then yeah--they shouldn't have nonprofit status.
   
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 Kanluwen wrote:
 whembly wrote:
Are you just as disgusted that Media Matters for America was given nonprofit status as well?

All they do is political activities as well...


I'm looking into this, but so far the only instance I can see of challenges being made of MMFA's status is by Fox after MMFA's "War on Fox".

Well... they really only cater towards the more liberal groups of Democrats. But, yeah... they're very active politically.

If they genuinely spend the majority of their contributions/funding on political activities that aid only one party? Then yeah--they shouldn't have nonprofit status.

Fair enough.

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I have a better idea. No tax free status unless you are a church or charity. There is no First Amendment right to freedom from taxation.

This would be a problem as it would de-employ many hardworking IRS agents...


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 Frazzled wrote:
I have a better idea. No tax free status unless you are a church or charity. There is no First Amendment right to freedom from taxation.

This would be a problem as it would de-employ many hardworking IRS agents...

That's a problem?




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 Frazzled wrote:
I have a better idea. No tax free status unless you are a church or charity. There is no First Amendment right to freedom from taxation.


I would even take that the next step and remove them from churches and charities. "Render unto Caesar" and all that.

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Based on a private conversation with another poster, I'd be ok with limiting tax relief to charities and religious entities with a majority of their expenses going to charities.

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 Ouze wrote:
 Frazzled wrote:
I have a better idea. No tax free status unless you are a church or charity. There is no First Amendment right to freedom from taxation.


I would even take that the next step and remove them from churches and charities. "Render unto Caesar" and all that.

meh... I would too. Or, at least have the tax trigger at certain net worth.

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