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Would it be acceptable to run a stormraven gunship thats covered with chaos emblems and all rag-tagged together with a chaos army and still have it act as a storm raven gunship?

Is the storm raven in your codex?
The rules don't tell you what to do when you don't follow them,
it'd be up to your opponent to let you or not.

No. It does not exist in your codex, and I don't think you may ally with an army that does have it.

Thought they had a Hell Turkey in the CSM Codex?!?

 jackflashultra wrote:
Would it be acceptable to run a stormraven gunship thats covered with chaos emblems and all rag-tagged together with a chaos army and still have it act as a storm raven gunship?

No. How you would ever think it would be okay for one army to paint a unit from another codex and use it like it's included in that codex is WAY beyond me.

The only way it's acceptable is your opponent saying "sure, we can each use any unit from any codex in our armies and pretend they're part of the same army".

 OIIIIIIO wrote:
Thought they had a Hell Turkey in the CSM Codex?!?

They do.

 troa wrote:
How you would ever think it would be okay for one army to paint a unit from another codex and use it like it's included in that codex is WAY beyond me.

No need to be a dick about answering the question. Acceptable =/= RAW as many things have shown in anecdotes from the game. Not playing someone because you don't like their list isn't acceptable in any way IMHO but the rules allow it. What people find acceptable is down to personal preference. You can't have an objective, absolute statement of this is unacceptable and be taken seriously especially when your second point gives the very situation where it is acceptable.

What the guy is asking isn't beyond the realms of what people like to do when playing games. Throwing in a random unit to spice things up might be how they roll in that flgs or gaming club. It's not allowed RAW but RAW is overcome by house rules and TO decisions all the time so I don't see a big deal with it so long as an opponent consents. It wouldn't fly at a tournament but that's not really what I think the OP is talking about.

Go ahead and do it mate, my buds let me use the storcRAVEN for my ravenwing, New book came out and I use the New flyers from that, but into New events, the New stormraven/talon is a formation, could you use that legally maybe?

 liturgies of blood wrote:

 troa wrote:
How you would ever think it would be okay for one army to paint a unit from another codex and use it like it's included in that codex is WAY beyond me.

No need to be a dick about answering the question. Acceptable =/= RAW as many things have shown in anecdotes from the game.

QFT: Oftentimes RAW is quite unacceptable(to some/many)

Alternatively you can use a Storm Eagle from forge world. Basically the older version of the Storm Raven anyway and is Chaos legal. Let the loyalist dogs have the Raven, the Eagle is a beast.

 Bausk wrote:
Alternatively you can use a Storm Eagle from forge world. Basically the older version of the Storm Raven anyway and is Chaos legal. Let the loyalist dogs have the Raven, the Eagle is a beast.

And its prettier too

 ausYenLoWang wrote:

 Bausk wrote:
Alternatively you can use a Storm Eagle from forge world. Basically the older version of the Storm Raven anyway and is Chaos legal. Let the loyalist dogs have the Raven, the Eagle is a beast.

And its prettier too

And you can make one from a storm raven kit with very little effort. Just a few bits here or there and you are good to go.

 Bausk wrote:
Alternatively you can use a Storm Eagle from forge world. Basically the older version of the Storm Raven anyway and is Chaos legal. Let the loyalist dogs have the Raven, the Eagle is a beast.

^ This.

I have a counts-as blood angels army that uses the BA codex, and I've just made all the assault marines, my own versions of Astorath and the Sanguinor, some thunderhammer stormshield terminators and, indeed, a chaos stormraven to go with it.

But I use all the BA rules to do so. A few times I've asked my opponents if I can run chaos daemons allies with my "chaos BA" as allies of convenience just for fun, and they haven't minded much. Wouldn't recommend it for tournament play.

As for just using a stormraven alongside the chaos codex, nah that's not allowed UNLESS you just ask your opponent "hey mind if I use this converted stormraven?"

Points are points. Shouldn't be a problem.

 Formosa wrote:
Go ahead and do it mate, my buds let me use the storcRAVEN for my ravenwing, New book came out and I use the New flyers from that, but into New events, the New stormraven/talon is a formation, could you use that legally maybe?

You are still restricted by the Ally Matrix, even though Formations doesn't take an ally slot.

If you are willing to take a Stormraven and convert it to Chaos, why not convert it to be a Stormeagle.

Same pts costs(more or less), same function, the only difference is that a Eagle can take 20 models, but no Dread, then again Chaos dreads are terrible anyway.

You can find the Chaos stormeagle rules in the new IA Apocalypse book, and since its a 40k stamped vehicle, you don't need your opponent authorisation to play it, just tell him its a Chaos stormeagle beforehand, its still nice.

The easiest way to make a Stormeagle is by using the Stormraven kit and a IG vendetta hull put together like this.





or to use the Chapter House Stormraven conversion kit.(26$)


http://chapterhousestudios.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=85_78&product_id=200

Ok that's good to know. I hadn't looked at the IA Apocalypse book yet, nice to see CSM get a flyer that isn't a demon. Plus you can carry 20 models and it's an assault vehicle. Carries more than a land raider and costs about the same.

it is always good to remember, that you can always just use the codex of a "chapter" that is allowed to use it and paint/model your marines to be chaos.
There are many chaos players (myself included when I played chaos) that will design their own color scheme and chaos marine army and use whatever 'marine" list they want to for any game needing only to make sure to let your opponent know that for this game, your using the blood angel codex or for another game, your using the space wolf codex and for the 3rd game, actually using the chaos codex. Just remember to not mix and match (except legal allies of course) and remember that for a tourney, you have to use the same list/codex throughout.

If you're going to get the vandetta kit and the raven just to kit bash an eagle you might as well just buy the eagle, it's cheaper and it's less messing about.