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So as a CSM player I have done well with the fallowing list.
DP: w/ wings, power armour, lvl3, MoT, and BBoS.=325
Nurgle lord: w/ BM & combi melta=135
2 squads of 8 PM: 2*plasma guns, power fist, combi melta=514
1 squad CSM: lascannon, meltagun, lighting claw, combi melta=195
2 heldrakes: balefalmers=340
2 preds: twin link las, side las=280
1 vindi: w/ shield and combi bolter=135
2 rhinos:=70

Adds up to....=1994

So I have 6 pts to play with.

Looking for C&C. Thank you

drop the preds and vindis and get another baledrake. (if you want to taost bike lists)

I am thinking dropping the preds, and BBoS, and adding a vindi and a baledrake. Also am considering dropping a mastery lvl on the DP giving him the BM and equipping the nurgle lord with a PF

 raiden wrote:
drop the preds and vindis and get another baledrake. (if you want to taost bike lists)

The answer is more helturky in the chaos stew. Max out on 3 already. If your army still loses, then ally black legion for 4th helturkey.

STr6 ap3 ignore cover baleflamer kills T5 turbo cover saves biker marines. How are you losing? Bale flamer wounds on 3, ignores their turbo boost cover and armor.

It was my first time against the bikers.

And his storm wing dropped me out of the sky.

Swap out drakes for spawns to catch their bikers. Swap out your preds & vindi for ac havocs or forge fiends to shoot down his flyers.

Get an adl if his flyers still prove problem matic. If you have ac maxed out on havocs then i would personally choose the icarus lascannon to pop his av12 flyer easier.

Yeah I think I might grab that ADL