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10 miles NE of the Middle of Nowhere

So, to start with, I have a character I invented for some fiction, and as a possible opponent for a game of Fantasy Flight Games Deathwatch. He's a Tau Commander named Commander Coldsteel.

Following is story. To some bits, you can skip it, if you want:
Spoiler:
Shas'O T'au Aloh Tak Monty'r, otherwise known as Commander Coldsteel, is a seasoned veteran of the Tau Empire's Fire Caste. He started his trials fighting against the endless swarms of the Tyranid menace, battling wave after wave of slavering,unnegotiable monsters. These battles earned him numerous accolades, including the chance to man an XV88-02 Iridium Armor Crisis Suit, and field-test several prototype weapons and devices, such as the cyclic ion blaster and Crisis suit shield generator. Eventually, the Tyranid menace cooling, Coldsteel's superiors chose to send him off to a distant battlefield in the Jericho Reach. It was here that he developed a hatred for another race, one almost as strong as his hatred for Tyranids; the Humans of the Imperium.

In their many quarrels, the Tau forces were expected to give the Imperium forces a chance to see the error of their ways, the benefits of the Greater Good, and be allowed to benefit, and several forces proceeded to join. It was one such group, however, that marked a turning point in O'Aloh's path, for one such man, armed with an explosive device, had witnessed the Tau's reverence for an Ethereal, and intended to suicide run that individual. Coldsteel's sharp senses detected this attack, and he was able to intercept the bomber, but the lack of his suit left him severely injured. In the end, he lost both an eye and an arm, each replaced with obvious cybernetic prostheses, while the Earth caste doctors waited for organic replacements to finish cultivating. Coldsteel had different plans, however; he opted to keep the prosthetics, as a permanent reminder of what a moment's hesitation or distraction can cost. Since the incident, he has come to view Humans in much the same light as the Tyranids; they are mindless bugs, ignorant fools incapable of being reasoned with, and with little to add to their advanced ways, besides. He is now like a chill wind, first a whistle of a gust (his "token" offers to the Humans, which the Ethereals still require he give), and then he washes over them, sweeping all away that stands before him. He hates Humans and Nids in equal measure, and bears weapons systems primed to wipe the swarming detritus off the field of battle.

Commander Coldsteel's suit is iridium-coated. He is armed with a cyclic ion blaster, a SM plasma rifle, a SM missile pod, and a prototype weapon, a Brightflare Projector (effectively, an incinerator). His suit also carries a shield generator, and he is bonded. I might add some other stuff (CDS, Multi-tracker; as a pure, for-fun custom, he can be a little extra ridiculous), but not right now; he's spendy, as is.


The purpose behind all of this is that I am trying to, on and off, make some minis of my original characters (GM Krueger (http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/470170.page#6344969) is one completed example). Coldsteel is a slightly tricky one, though, because his Crisis Suit is bigger, and better. I'm trying to decide if, in an effort to duplicate the better plates of Iridium armor, if I could use a Broadside as the base model, with parts from a Commander CS mini attached and slipped in, to keep more the look of the Commander's ride? I've never really gotten a great answer for how to illustrate the iridium upgrade, and neither like "use shinier paint" or the possibly showing it Forgeworld models. Iridium armor is approximate to what a Broadside has, so it might work out, and then I put in different hands, throw in the right guns, and such. Has anyone tried this? Any better ideas? The Broadside and Commander Suit are each a bit spendy, so not spending money is preferable to disappointment. Figuring out some of his weapons won't be so bad, once I figure out his chassis. Any assistance or advice would be much appreciated. Thanks.
   
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10 miles NE of the Middle of Nowhere

The current opinion on Librarium Online is that the Boradsides are now to big and different-looking to be a good stand-in for the base suit. So I'll come out and ask the direct question, then. How do Tau players usually represent Iridium armor on their Crisis Suits? 6E seems to have taken every negative out of it, leaving just two nice benefits for what seems an okay cost, to me. With it being a relevant choice, again, I have to pretend that at least one Player for the Greater Good uses it, and "what you see is what you get", so it SHOULD? stand out.

In days gone by, I saw someone who glued tread pieces on (wasn't pretty), I've heard of attaching a few bits (doesn't look more armored), the shiny paint (nope), and cutting up the box to make plates (not itching to try that). It seems weird when GW makes an upgrade that they don't give pieces to illustrate, and the ForgeWorld one I don't see, but I remember it looked a bit blocky (think it's the XV89), compared to the new Crisis Suits, sort of like a G1 transformer, from my childhood, standing next to one they just made, from the new Prime series, or a 3rd party. I just really wish I knew an easy way "for me" to be able to do this; Coldsteel's weapon kit out is a bit flexible, in my mind (I'll have to figure out, if I tackle this, how to make a Tau-themed incinerator), and he might not need an Incinerator AND a CIB (though I can see them actually working well, together), but from the get-go, this character has had Iridium on his suit.

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I think a broadside would work decently as a base indeed.

Probably will need to bump up the jet pack part of it though, probably use the new commander kits jet pack parts.

If you can make em, you could probably scratch build the iridium plates and make em look like the current tau leg plats.

 Unit1126PLL wrote:
 Scott-S6 wrote:
And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.

Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!

 
   
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10 miles NE of the Middle of Nowhere

Well, a positive, hazaah! I might have to do a little comparing, then, and decide if I want to cannibalize two models, or get the XV89. I still don't like a few of FWs pictures of it, but it might have most of the kit I need, without having to buy two suits, and then have most of the expensive part of the commander, his suit, sit in a box, missing some parts.

Thank you very much for your opinion; good to see it might still be a viable option.
   
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Indeed. the main issue i have with the broadsides as a commander suit would of been the jet pack.

Actually though my personal preference and what i did my self (il take a picture later) is to use a xv9 instead.

The kit is roughly the same size as the current commander enforcer suit. and looks way cooler personally.

 Unit1126PLL wrote:
 Scott-S6 wrote:
And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.

Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!

 
   
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10 miles NE of the Middle of Nowhere

I'll agree, I like the XV9, even for them not being "officially" in the codex, and when the good Commander Coldsteel first got statted up for Deathwatch, it was a plan I had to use, but my worry, and as you've used one, you can probably answer the question is, does the XV9 box ALSO come with all of the regular guns a Commander suit box does? $51 + shipping isn't too bad, when that's about where the Broadside sits, but if I also need to buy the Commander, just for the guns, that's a bit less happy.

That said, if it comes with the cyclic ion blaster, a plasma rifle, and a missile pod, I'd be good enough (gonna have to make the incinerator, probably), but the fusion cascades, and phased ion guns, while cool, aren't really what I need. Finding the bits might not be too hard, but it's good to know if I'll HAVE to. It does have a Shas'O option there, and HE might have the "regular" assortment of Cmdr guns.
   
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No the xv9 comes with the under slung arm weapons that are specific to them. though you could use the phase ion gun arm as a cyclic.

the rest of the bits you could get super easy for about 10 total off weebay.

Unfortunatly there is no ready built kit for the load out you want.

you will be stuck buying multiple boxes or ebaying the bits.

the XV9 kit does not have a free hand so you would be scratch building that part. nor does it have extra hard points for other war gear to go on.

the new commander finecast kit, only comes only with a plasma a few support gear, the AFP and the cyclic.

the broadsides have no free hands as well comes with SMS (which could be used as twinlinked MP), plasma, hard points but no jet pack, so that would need to be bashed or scratched.

your commander will end up being 50-100$ at least less if your thrifty.

 Unit1126PLL wrote:
 Scott-S6 wrote:
And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.

Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!

 
   
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As always on this question I recommend checking out Resv's work. Memorable, visibly heavier than normal xv8s and totally awesome

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10 miles NE of the Middle of Nowhere

I'll agree that that is a very cool model. The only real problem here is a matter of skill; my skill, and I don't know if it starts to approach that. Does a post attached to that, someplace, mention what all the crafter did?
   
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I'm pretty sure Resv had a thread on them. I can't remember if ut was here or in p&m blogs, but a quick search should dig sonething up.

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