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Competitive? Suggestions?

HQ: CCS
Autocannon, Meltagun x3, Carapace Armor, Astropath, Chimera.

Troop: Vets
Plasma Gun x3, Lascannon, Chimera

Troop: Vets
PLasma Gun x3, Lascannon, Chimera

Troop: Vets
Plasma Gun x3, Lascannon, Chimera

Troop: Vets
Plasma Gun x3, Autocannon, Chimera

Troop: Vets
Plasma Gun x3, Autocannon, Chimera

Fast: Vendetta
Fast:Vendetta

Heavy: LBRT x2
Hvy Bolter Sponsoon x2

Heavy: Manticore

Troops: Vets
Melta Gun x2, Demolitions
(goes into 1 vendetta)

What do you think? Too much plasma?

Drop the heavy weapons from all quads so you gain the ability to move, with pts left over you can buy primaris psyker and he can shoot out of chirmera 2d6 strength 6 ap 5 shots to clear away chaff, or glance Ws to death.

Is 1999+1pt any different from 2000pt? Just wondering.

Yes, normally 2k points is double fore org While 1999+1 is 1 force org.

Than for the quick response!

The heavy weapons still not viable if im not moving? Camping obj or for some reason being still help me that turn?

You've got one too many special weapons on the CCS. Those LRBT sponsons are going to be snap-firing, so they're sort of a waste. See if you can find the space with all these cuts to move another vet squad from a chimera to the other vendetta, and see what you're left with for some more fire support. Also yeah it does seem a little heavy on plasma compared to melta, especially with LRBTs giving you anti-MEQ.

Why would the heavy bolters be snap firing? Ordnance rule?

The plasma seemsgood to me, just got the fact he lacks Teq, and in case he roll like $%^ on reserves (even with re-rolls) then it can be make shift AA.

The vendettas will be able to kill most tanks and the fact he needs to be so close to use meltas its a main reason I prefer demolishers.

How would this list fair against tyrannies? Esp 3 terms and one or two flyrants? Whit scars? I am play testing it tonight....more to follow

Against nids, if you can ground the flyrants then they should die because they have no inv, the other critters can be shoot to pieces with enough melta/plamsa.

Good job auto correct for trannies...Thats one reason i went plasma was range and AP. I just hope i don't get into assault too early. If I take off the heavy bolter sponsoons and the extra melta in the CCS would it benefit me to get an ageis defense line!?

I usually do a mix of melta and plasma. about 2-1 plasma as I find I kill myself a lot with plasma guns. melta at least there is no gets hot. 30 rapid fire plasma shots are going to kill several of your guys I think. That's me though, gets hot is tough on my army most games.

An agies defense line may help you because it gives your AV units a 4+ cover as apposed to none, also unless you buy like a lord commissar to shoot the quad gun just stick with the wall.

Played last night.....got my imperial guard ass handed to me lol. Played bids with 3 tervs, swarm lord,fly rant,trogon,etc...and serpent spam eldar.....I never had a chance....ideas from here? I'm going to repost a new list with GW allies.....

Maybe building your list around 3 units of 3 vendettas and rest is massed guard with autocannons behind agies with quad gun.

Dont have all those vendettas and the two i used yesturday didnt do a damn thing. I dont get their effectiveness. Whats the strat with them? They can only shoot from the front 3 TL las is nice but i only hit 2 usually since 4;s inst that great. Also i lost atleast 8 guys a game to plasma...i will prob go more melta too...

Plasma is best for vets with 4+ armour (my brother likes plasma I don't) I would just use basic guardsmen in blobs of 30 with 3 autocannons and a commissar rinse and repeat behind an agies defense line with quad gun. WS have a hard time dealing with 30 autocannon shots which you can twin link each turn, so autocannons are probably your best bet.

Also for vendettas their main point is AA and after that killing tanks, and dropping vets with meltas, flamers, or demolitions so they can blast stuff into tiny pieces.

Thank you for your help!


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List Revised after ass whooping

HQ: CCS
Las, Carapace, MoF, Chimera

HQ: CCS
Las, MoO

Troop: Vets
Plasma x3, Las, Chimera

Troops: Vets
Melta x3, Las, Chimera

Troop: PCS
Flamer x4, Chimera

Troop: IS
GL, AutoCannon

Troop: IS
GL, Auto Cannon

Troop: IS
GL, Auto Cannon

Troop: Heavy Weapons
Las x3

Heavy: LRBTx2

Heavy: Manticore

Heavy: Manticore

Fast: Hellhound

Fast: Vendetta

ADL/Icurus Las

Strategy: CCS and PCS and x3 IS join behind ADL w/Las. Shoot at anything weak enough for autocannons and order issues. 3 Chimeras run up shooting what they can. HEavy weapons behind ADL or good cover for tank hunter. LRBT/Manticore Anti infantry hunting. Hellhound...more fire lol. Vendetta tank hunter. Decent?

The first list you had was good, but IMHO the load out was wrong and you needed a higher model count. If hordes are in your local meta then each Vet squad should have a Heavy Flamer hands down. If your that close, or are shooting out of your chimera then melta should be in the load out over plasma every time. The transports are key because you need a way to get them around with out being assaulted or shot to hell. Because their moving you can drop the hvy weaps from them, its worthless points snapfiring. Also remember to use that smoke.

If you want to do some footy / gun-line type squads behind the ADL then I would strongly suggest throwing Creed in for the orders buff. Throwing down several units of first rank fire/ second rank fire against horde is pretty important. Even a Lord Commisar or something to help them keep their crap together when their assaulted/ shot to hell helps.

Manticores are great for taking stuff out at long range. LRBT are basically just a pie plate each round. Try taking out one of the LR , and adding 2 Griffons, or the no-cover save artillery. The more pie plates the better

MoO and those guys are preference.

The Vendetta is good to have to work against ground targets and enemy flyers the key I have found is know what your gonna shoot and where at least 2 turns ahead so you can keep maneuvering it for the best shots.

If you wanted to throw in some allies, that could be a big help. I personally would run some Inquistor Allies, loading out on Servo Skulls to reduce scatter dice for blasts and get some presience going on for my gunline like arbiter said.

Praise to you Goldfire39 for you speak wise words!

Follow what is said above add some experience and you will bring glory to the Emperor (and/or yourself).

Allies i recommand are GKs, Eldar, Tau they give the the most out of allies, or even SW if you want some magic defense.