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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/22 22:29:29
Subject: Daemon of.... WYSIWYG
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So to prevent me from having to buy a ton of daemon princes I don't plan on putting a icon or anything on them declaring their allegiance to a specific chaos god. Would this be a problem for tournaments? I know the answer for locals, but I am curious at the big evens like Adepticon, Feast, and especially NOVA as its nearby for me. I don't plan to have different ones, all the princes would share the same patron, I just don't want to model it as it would make it impossible to use them as another and could require buying a whole other prince just to use.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/22 22:31:32
Subject: Daemon of.... WYSIWYG
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Enigmatic Chaos Sorcerer
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You could add some details on the bases representing each patron that are magnetized for switching between games.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/22 22:33:30
Subject: Daemon of.... WYSIWYG
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I should think it'd be fine if you modeled it as undivided.
It'd only really become a problem if you have more than one w different Marks
You could always do the above subset ion and magnetise
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/24 17:18:55
Subject: Daemon of.... WYSIWYG
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IME marks are not harshly policed. If you've modeled a given daemon prince with obvious marks and heraldry of one god and then try to play him as Daemon of another god, that is likely to cause confusion and might incur a penalty if opponents complain. IME most folks are pretty open on this stuff, though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/24 21:29:36
Subject: Daemon of.... WYSIWYG
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Mannahnin wrote:IME marks are not harshly policed. If you've modeled a given daemon prince with obvious marks and heraldry of one god and then try to play him as Daemon of another god, that is likely to cause confusion and might incur a penalty if opponents complain. IME most folks are pretty open on this stuff, though.
This has been my experience as well.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/24 22:16:24
Subject: Daemon of.... WYSIWYG
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Tunneling Trygon
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Make a few themed weapons and magnetise them. A brutal axe adorned with the Mark of Khorne, a slender whip for Slaanesh, a rusted blade for Nurgle, and a staff or burning blue weapon for Tzeentch.
Alternatively, do as someone else did and have magnetised bits on their bases. The banners that come with the CSM box are a good start.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/24 22:21:11
Subject: Daemon of.... WYSIWYG
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Angered Reaver Arena Champion
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Eldarain wrote:You could add some details on the bases representing each patron that are magnetized for switching between games.
This, because IME if someone is playing a lot of daemon princes who all have very different load outs it is extremely important to make it as easy for the opponent as possible to instantly recognise each one. Maybe a big bloody skull totem for Khorne, a corpse on a stick (ala Corpse Cart) for Nurgle, a slave girl for Slaanesh (ala Dias of destruction) or a Sigil totem for Tzeentch. They could be easily magnetised onto a base without effecting the game, but giving the enemy a clear picture of who is who. Also a good idea if you plan on running the Portalglyph or Grimour is to actually make little tokens painted to symbolize each one that you could put next to the model who has it, not necessary but your opponents would thank you for it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/24 22:23:42
Subject: Daemon of.... WYSIWYG
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What if all share the same Mark? Is there a need to show it then or can I just say the Princes have Daemon of X?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/24 22:27:52
Subject: Daemon of.... WYSIWYG
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Angered Reaver Arena Champion
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Friendly game, yes. Tourney, not really. I am sure you could get way with it, but imagine the hard feelings if someone shot at the wrong prince because he didn't know which was which? Would you let them take it back and shoot at the right one? Why not avoid the situation all together and put some kind of marker to show who is who, even if it's only a piece of laminated paper with the Gods symbol on?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/24 22:42:55
Subject: Daemon of.... WYSIWYG
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I think most tournament players won't care at all as long as you clearly explain it and it's not the case where you're using a greater daemon of one god to represent a prince of another.
Depending on your tastes, you could avoid blue red green and pink as your main colors since each of those is associated with a specific chaos god and could be a little confusing to players but that's not entirely necessary if it doesn't appeal to you.
Best example I've seen: I've had lots of daemon opponents give me their list and it labels them based on the kind of heads or some other physical description they have (prince with bird head, prince with snake head, prince with insect wings, prince with two handed staff, etc). This is perfect, it makes it clear to the opponent which prince has which upgrades, and is very easy to keep track of. Just don't show up with a bloodthirster or great unclean one and use it as tzeentch prince.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/25 03:07:19
Subject: Daemon of.... WYSIWYG
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ALEXisAWESOME wrote:Friendly game, yes. Tourney, not really. I am sure you could get way with it, but imagine the hard feelings if someone shot at the wrong prince because he didn't know which was which? Would you let them take it back and shoot at the right one? Why not avoid the situation all together and put some kind of marker to show who is who, even if it's only a piece of laminated paper with the Gods symbol on?
How does that make sense in my statement though? Each prince is marked out by its wargear especially as I label them. The one with the sword has X, the one with the book is the Grimoire, etc. I'm just asking about their actual Daemon of X rule in which they get their patron. To be blunt if they are all Nurgle Princes do I actually have to go out of my to mark them nurgle?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/25 22:21:59
Subject: Daemon of.... WYSIWYG
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Chaos Space Marine dedicated to Slaanesh
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No, you don't. I've never had a problem running daemon princes. I have mutated penitent engines I use as DPs, and I used to run them as tzeench in the old codex, but I run them as slaanesh in the new one. No one really cares about marking as long as your army list has it marked and you paid the points. As long as there are differentiations in the models, even slight ones, to tell them apart, no one really cares how they are modeled based on patron god.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/26 12:45:07
Subject: Daemon of.... WYSIWYG
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morgendonner wrote:I think most tournament players won't care at all as long as you clearly explain it and it's not the case where you're using a greater daemon of one god to represent a prince of another.
Depending on your tastes, you could avoid blue red green and pink as your main colors since each of those is associated with a specific chaos god and could be a little confusing to players but that's not entirely necessary if it doesn't appeal to you.
Best example I've seen: I've had lots of daemon opponents give me their list and it labels them based on the kind of heads or some other physical description they have (prince with bird head, prince with snake head, prince with insect wings, prince with two handed staff, etc). This is perfect, it makes it clear to the opponent which prince has which upgrades, and is very easy to keep track of. Just don't show up with a bloodthirster or great unclean one and use it as tzeentch prince.
This is what I do and I have never had an issue.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/29 21:32:18
Subject: Daemon of.... WYSIWYG
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Been Around the Block
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I have necklaces made from spare CSM Tank bitz and fine jewelry chain for my Princes.
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