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 Phazael wrote:
Did you guys sort out the scoring mess that happened on the Fantasy side?

MVBrandt wrote:
We're still looking into that. The board doesn't have any avid fantasy players, and we lean heavily on the leads. I think they figured it out, though. Definitely some QC to do on the fantasy side for 2014.

Ugh, the same happened at AdeptiCon for the fantasy event I attended in 2012 (scoring snafu :-/). It seems the largest GT organizers are mostly 40k-oriented, and the fantasy side is run by a different crew usually.

I think for myself if I was to pick a fantasy event it would be a fantasy-only smaller one... but for 40k it'd be something like AdeptiCon or Nova, hands-down!

Infinity is having a bit of a renaissance at my local store, though, so that's also an option for next year

*Note- I'd like to preemptively clarify that I did not type this post with a negative tone, just as an observation that at the major GTs I have been to, fantasy was not run by the main organizers and so is dependent on the specific person / crew leading it... just something to keep in mind!

 Phazael wrote:
Did you guys sort out the scoring mess that happened on the Fantasy side?

The scoring mess on the fantasy side eventually got figured out. However, trying to change the scoring system, after the tournament was over, was a little bush league. I am glad that cooler heads prevailed and for the most part the scores remained pretty similar even with the changes. But, getting told 5 mins before the award ceremony was supposed to start that you had lost best over all by one point, when you had previously been told you had won was definitely a shocker.

Was it changed from the pre-tourney packet, if there was one? Seems like that would be out of bounds...

 RiTides wrote:

 Phazael wrote:
Did you guys sort out the scoring mess that happened on the Fantasy side?

MVBrandt wrote:
We're still looking into that. The board doesn't have any avid fantasy players, and we lean heavily on the leads. I think they figured it out, though. Definitely some QC to do on the fantasy side for 2014.

Ugh, the same happened at AdeptiCon for the fantasy event I attended in 2012 (scoring snafu :-/). It seems the largest GT organizers are mostly 40k-oriented, and the fantasy side is run by a different crew usually.

I think for myself if I was to pick a fantasy event it would be a fantasy-only smaller one... but for 40k it'd be something like AdeptiCon or Nova, hands-down!

Infinity is having a bit of a renaissance at my local store, though, so that's also an option for next year

*Note- I'd like to preemptively clarify that I did not type this post with a negative tone, just as an observation that at the major GTs I have been to, fantasy was not run by the main organizers and so is dependent on the specific person / crew leading it... just something to keep in mind!

colonial GT for fantasy easily made over 60 players last year... and there were some on the waiting list. In terms of fantasy events... its top noch

 RiTides wrote:
Was it changed from the pre-tourney packet, if there was one? Seems like that would be out of bounds...

Yes it was changed from the players pack.

Is there a summary of all the results somewhere?

I'd like to see what happened during the INFINITY tournaments...

 Alpharius wrote:
Is there a summary of all the results somewhere?



http://app.torrentoffire.com/#/tournament/NOVA-Open-2013/leaderboard

eltrain728 wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
Is there a summary of all the results somewhere?

http://app.torrentoffire.com/#/tournament/NOVA-Open-2013/leaderboard

He wants the INFINITY results. Those are the Open results.

Maybe there's a blog or the like? I'll ask the local Infinity players if they know anyone who went, since it's near here.

Despite rumors to the contrary, "app.torrentoffire.com" does not hold all the answers... even if you pay the monthly fee

 MasterSlowPoke wrote:
Looks like I'm the dumbass who left his army case in the hotel room. ArbitorIan almost might have been the last person to play against my Necrons.

Call the hotel and ask. Decent hotels maintain a Lost and Found. If you're willing to give them a CC number over the phone, they'll probably be fine with shipping your army back to you. I've had to do just that when my wife left her Kindle Fire in a hotel room on vacation last year.

What was the Necron/Ork list running in the top 10? I scrolled through like 5 pages but didn't see any details.

 RobPro wrote:
What was the Necron/Ork list running in the top 10? I scrolled through like 5 pages but didn't see any details.

That list was on the top table for the last round. I don't know the list exactly, but from watching the stream it was roughly:

Destroyer Lord
Vargard Obyron
Mega-Armor Warboss

3x Min Warriors in Night Scythes
5 Meganobs in a Trukk

6 Wraiths
5-6 Scarabs

2x Annihilation Barge
3 Canoptek Spiders

5 scarabs and the spyders had a prism. Edit: and 2 whips on the wraiths.

DaddyWarcrimes wrote:

 MasterSlowPoke wrote:
Looks like I'm the dumbass who left his army case in the hotel room. ArbitorIan almost might have been the last person to play against my Necrons.

Call the hotel and ask. Decent hotels maintain a Lost and Found. If you're willing to give them a CC number over the phone, they'll probably be fine with shipping your army back to you. I've had to do just that when my wife left her Kindle Fire in a hotel room on vacation last year.

They had it and are shipping it back. Would have been awful as I probably had at 500 dollars worth of 2nd edition Necrons in that case.

 RiTides wrote:
Maybe there's a blog or the like? I'll ask the local Infinity players if they know anyone who went, since it's near

Thanks - much appreciated!

I've tried searching around the net a bit but couldn't find anything.

I'm curious as to what lists did well, and won!, as there's certainly no real local scene and certainly no 'meta'!

@ MVBrandt.

I've been involved in several major (non 40K) conventions in the past, so I know that there will be a debriefing with you and your crew. My questions are more of the logistics in nature.

What was your total attendance for the entire event and its breakdown of players in various tournaments from last year? Was it overall more? or less? Are there more interest in other games besides 40K/WFB than last year? What was the turnout in those games.

I know you have other venues than just gaming, how well these go? Will there be more in the future?

Logistical Problems? Were they smoother than last year? Food and concessions. How were they and what changes would you make in the future? Hotel accommodations? Did it affect turn out due to pricing/ holiday weekend?


I hope you are going to adapt to those changes when the time comes -Adam.

 Adam LongWalker wrote:
@ MVBrandt.

I've been involved in several major (non 40K) conventions in the past, so I know that there will be a debriefing with you and your crew. My questions are more of the logistics in nature.

What was your total attendance for the entire event and its breakdown of players in various tournaments from last year? Was it overall more? or less? Are there more interest in other games besides 40K/WFB than last year? What was the turnout in those games.

I know you have other venues than just gaming, how well these go? Will there be more in the future?

Logistical Problems? Were they smoother than last year? Food and concessions. How were they and what changes would you make in the future? Hotel accommodations? Did it affect turn out due to pricing/ holiday weekend?


I hope you are going to adapt to those changes when the time comes -Adam.

These are all questions being addressed by the exec board, bolstered by the impending annual survey. Overall, these things all registered in the "improvement" column, with some notable growing pains still experienced. I'm being told the overall foot traffic was a little over 700; I'm not calling that official until I'm back from vacation!

 Alpharius wrote:
Is there a summary of all the results somewhere?

I'd like to see what happened during the INFINITY tournaments...

Here http://infinitythegame.com/forum/index.php?/topic/16500-nova-open-2013-august-29th-september-1/page-5 The Excel® spreadsheet. For RL names see the most recent newsletter. Peruse the rest of the thread for links to batreps.

You're welcome.

I like the idea of separating the invite and the open to thurs and Friday for the invite and sat and sun for the open. The open still had to wake up at 630 on Sunday as it was, and then wait for the invite to finish for prizes, so making all 4 games on Sunday be nova open games makes sense.

Also, only the first 6 games counting for ren man I feel is a bad idea. Making those last two games pointless for 95% of the field as they are already out of the running for a bracket and didn't go undefeated in games 1 to 6 for ren man is a letdown. I also like the idea of ren man being per bracket for the same reason, because as it stands the ren man will almost always be someone who goes 6 wins in the first 6 games.

In terms of round timing, my main complaint there is the 2.5 hours for rounds often started as soon as pairing were announced it seemed. There was a large amount of time lost moving armies to other tables, generating pre game rolls, switching sides, ect. So 2.5 hours for a game may be ok, but as implemented it appeared to be much less time for the game by the time both players started turn 1.

All in all, loved the event and looking forward to next year.

It was a great event.

One of the best experiences I had were the seminars. I wish I had more time in my schedule to attend more, as they were incredibly informative.

This was a great event and a great time. I really appreciated, and could easily see, the amount of work that went into organizing and running this sucker. Mike and the rest of the staff are clearly very ambitious to have an amazing weekend full of first-class events and look to be making strides every year. The main focus (understandably) is the Open and Invitational, but you could see that a good amount of passion and excitement wnt into the Narrative and Trios as well.

The hotel was excellent and is a great rate and location. Local food and drink was pricey but mostly delicious.

I thought the schedule had a good rationale; while I appreciated the greater separation of events while watching on UStream the last two years, it made sense this way as well to give the Open-only players shorter, less-exhausting days. I'm torn on whether to put the last two Open or Invitational games last on Sunday. With the Invitational games last, you can potentially make those more of a spectacle, and you give Open players who've traveled a long way a chance to start home early. This worked our for me and Alex (The Everliving), as we were driving from New England; so by dropping out of the last two rounds of the Invitational, we were able to get on the road ~2pm, and I got home around midnight. OTOH, if you put the Invitational games first, you give all the Open players a chance to sleep in on Sunday if they want to (or hit the vendors or seminars that morning) , and you make it more appealing for them to stick around for the awards/closing ceremony, as they don't have to sit around for several hours waiting for the Invitational to finish up. I think I lean slightly toward that latter approach, even though it would result in me getting home much later or laying another hotel night. (or possibly flying instead of driving).

As far as anything else constructive to say, I love that NOVA started experimenting with changing up the terain; unfortunately the alternate layout this year was just a bit too open, a problem exacerbated by the presense of powerful new armies which reliably ignored cover saves with their best and most powerful shooting units, which to some extent turned the middle three-four feet of the table into a shooting gallery where maneuver was largely irrelevant. It's amazing the difference one good LOS-blocker in the middle makes. The one game I had against Taudar with it, my bracket 4 semifinal, instead of being a slaughter was a 17/3 win for me at the end of turn 4; we rushed to squeeze in a 5th turn, which turned it to a 10/10 draw won by my opponent on VPs. A much closer-fought game.

All of my opponents were great folks; even the three Taudar guys. I had the pleasure of playing Jeremy Veyssaire in the first round of the open, and drinking with him later, and he'sa top-notch guy despite the teeth-kicking he gave my poor Chaos/Necrons on that darn alternate terrain setup + Hammer & Anvil. Clauss (from here on Dakka) gave me a 3/17 loss in round 2, but it was much more of a game, as he wasn't running Triptide with his Eldar, just one each of the big guys.

Many thanks to my opponents for nine fun games, including Dakka's own Tomb King; we had a heck of a game in our bracket; I felt good about the matchup against his IG/SW, but after my bonehead mistake on turn 1 of giving him LOS to use Misfortune, I needed some luck to recover and keep control of the game, and Brett's Reserve dice gave me the break I needed.

Other really fun games included Steven with Sisters + IG, and Josh (?) running SW/GK. Those guys both had really attractive and fluffy armies, as well as competitive ones which gave great games.

It was also, of course, seeing and drinking with so many great guys who I get to hang out with at these big events which really made it awesome. Seeing Ben Mohlie despite him being off at Business Schol, hanging out with Neil Gilstrap and going for gourmet pizza, chatting with Fareed and his son late at night over whiskey about 40k and life (not necessarily in that order), getting to meet and have a Chaos-off with James Watkins in the invitational. Thanking him, Mike Somerville, and Dave the painting judge for all the work they do. Seeing and drinking with Troy, Bill, James, Sam, Jared, and the other New England guys. Drinking on the patio late at night. Meeting Chancetragedy and other Dakka guys (Arbtorian, your army looked awesome! Sorry I didn't realize it was you and introduce myself!) . Seeing old friends from Dakka dn real life (Labmouse, Jin, Janthkin, Centurian99, etc.),; Bill; thanks for sharing the room with me! Kevin, you were a lifesaver with those earplugs! My heartfelt thanks to you both. The social side of this is half the joy. And it really is a joy.

Thanks for the recap. Sounds like it was generally a great time to be had. I've never been to Nova but I certainly remember feeling tired from full days of gaming so I'd be thankful for a bit of a respite on the last day as well.

I had a lot of fun this year, second year too, differently a lot more social stuff to do, the charity bar and the charity seminars were a blast, meet some really cool people and drank some great drinks. I had a lot of fun and hope to be back next year. I would even like to volunteer next year too. Also the bullet (resistant) vest is awesome.

Thanks to the NOVA crew for another great tourny. I brought my sisters/ig and had an awesome time. I got to play Daemons, Eldar/Tau, Tau, Necrons/GK, CSM, and Eldar/DE so it was a nice spread for me. My game vs. Mannahnin was a blast (even though my poor sisters got the smackdown). I also did the team tourny which is always a great time. I am looking forward to next year!

Thank you for all the feedback on this year's Nova! I can assure that the board is already hard at work planning Nova 2014 (Including some really neat developments on the narrative side). Rest assured that we take any criticism very seriously and are already moving to address the Fantasy concerns for next year.

Keep the feedback coming, especially ideas for things that would make your experience even better.

Kolath,
Member of the board, Narrative Lead.

Thank you for all the feedback on this year's Nova! I can assure that the board is already hard at work planning Nova 2014 (Including some really neat developments on the narrative side). Rest assured that we take any criticism very seriously and are already moving to address the Fantasy concerns for next year.

Cool.
Handicapping taudar?

 Pyriel- wrote:

Thank you for all the feedback on this year's Nova! I can assure that the board is already hard at work planning Nova 2014 (Including some really neat developments on the narrative side). Rest assured that we take any criticism very seriously and are already moving to address the Fantasy concerns for next year.

Cool.
Handicapping taudar?

By the time the next Nova rolls around, there will be another FoTM army rolling taudar.

 Valhallan42nd wrote:

 Pyriel- wrote:

Thank you for all the feedback on this year's Nova! I can assure that the board is already hard at work planning Nova 2014 (Including some really neat developments on the narrative side). Rest assured that we take any criticism very seriously and are already moving to address the Fantasy concerns for next year.

Cool.
Handicapping taudar?

By the time the next Nova rolls around, there will be another FoTM army rolling taudar.

Dartau?


I´m so looking forward to 10 more years of utter eldar and tau dominance.
Thanks geedub, very competent of your "right attitude" dev team.