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Hey guys, need help refining my army list. There's a 1k tourny coming up in a week or so, I wanna do fairly well but upmost mainly have fun. I don't know mainly what i'll be facing however I know there is at least 1 VERY competitive Nid player and a fair few camping cowards (Tau) players. I have 2 lists set up so far, not sure what to run. Can you guys rate each one, and give comments on how to improve them?

List 1

HQ
Ordo Malleus Inquisitor W/ 3 servo skulls (74 points)

Troops
Terminator squad W/ Brotherhood banner, 3 halberds, psycannon, storm bolters and psyammo (270 points)
Terminator squad W/ 3 halberds, psilencer, storm bolters (215 points)

Fast attack
Stormraven W/ Hurricane bolters, psybolt ammo, TL assault cannons, TL multi meltas (255 points)

Heavy support
Dreadknight W/ Heavy incinerator, doomfist and greatsword (185 points)

999 total.

List 2

HQ
Grand master W/ Daemonhammer (180 points)

Troops
Strike squad W/ Incinerator, psycannon, storm bolters, 6 halberds, 1 force sword (305 points)
Terminators W/ Brotherhood banner, Daemonhammer, 4 halberds, psycannon (330 points)

Heavy support
Dreadknight W/ Heavy incinerator, doomfist and greatsword (185 points)

1000 total.

I personally like list 1. The storm raven adds a ton of manovreability and vehicle popping power. Due to the nature of the army being elitist I don't think that you would hold up that well against the nids but imho I like purifiers against hordes to turn their numbers against them and then mop up. Against the nids I wouldn't deep strike anything either. Let them come to you and pick them off with your storm bolters before mopping up in CC.

Shouldn't have much trouble against the tau though except for your stormraven. Interceptor fire will wreak that if your not careful.

lordra001 wrote:
I personally like list 1. The storm raven adds a ton of manovreability and vehicle popping power. Due to the nature of the army being elitist I don't think that you would hold up that well against the nids but imho I like purifiers against hordes to turn their numbers against them and then mop up. Against the nids I wouldn't deep strike anything either. Let them come to you and pick them off with your storm bolters before mopping up in CC.

Shouldn't have much trouble against the tau though except for your stormraven. Interceptor fire will wreak that if your not careful.

Yeah that's why I included the psilencer with the termies, try to hammer out as much firepower before anything gets close, and with the brotherhood banner, all force weapons in that unit will be instakilling everything. Having the heavy incinerator will help against any advancing hordes.

Yeah i've learnt that the hard way before with a dakkajet, failed all 3 jinx saves and got destroyed soon as it came in :/ what is the range of interceptor fire? Is it just the range of the model with the special rule?

I would drop the psilencer from the terminators, the low strength and no ap isnt something to rely on.

Psybolt ammo should only be taken if they are a 10 man squad.

Strike squads are not, I repeat not, a CC unit. They should not have any upgraded CC weapons other than a halberd on the Justicar or a hammer in case of smashing. Speaking of hammers...

The GM should have a sword for the 3++ in CC, makes a good beatstick.

 FinkleLord wrote:
I would drop the psilencer from the terminators, the low strength and no ap isnt something to rely on.

Psybolt ammo should only be taken if they are a 10 man squad.

Strike squads are not, I repeat not, a CC unit. They should not have any upgraded CC weapons other than a halberd on the Justicar or a hammer in case of smashing. Speaking of hammers...

The GM should have a sword for the 3++ in CC, makes a good beatstick.

I was contemplating switching out the psilencer for an incinerator
With a low model count, i'd rather have the extra strength, however dropping the psyammo could maybe fit more room for another termie.
I know, however they have done well for me in cc before, but the problem is my strike squad are the old metal versions, all being with halberds and proxying isn't allowed. Same with my grand master, cus he is a GM/inquisitor conversion, he is built with a daemonhammer and not a sword :/

 randomtoaster wrote:

 FinkleLord wrote:
I would drop the psilencer from the terminators, the low strength and no ap isnt something to rely on.

Psybolt ammo should only be taken if they are a 10 man squad.

Strike squads are not, I repeat not, a CC unit. They should not have any upgraded CC weapons other than a halberd on the Justicar or a hammer in case of smashing. Speaking of hammers...

The GM should have a sword for the 3++ in CC, makes a good beatstick.

I was contemplating switching out the psilencer for an incinerator
With a low model count, i'd rather have the extra strength, however dropping the psyammo could maybe fit more room for another termie.
I know, however they have done well for me in cc before, but the problem is my strike squad are the old metal versions, all being with halberds and proxying isn't allowed. Same with my grand master, cus he is a GM/inquisitor conversion, he is built with a daemonhammer and not a sword :/

In the case of proxy I completely understand. I have some of the older pewter models as well and proxy, though not frowned upon here, bothers me.

Also I LOVE how the psilencer looks on the terminators. I'm just sad that it isn't that good.