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As the list says this is my more infantry based IG list. Never made a IG list before but main thing I was wanting to do was gun down the enemy with sheer fire power and contest the objectives. I plan to put my Lord Commissar with the blob of Infantry, and use my HWT and SWS to sit on objectives. Vets are there to hop off the vendettas and just melta the dangerous targets. C&C is welcome as this is my first guards list.

HQ: CCs-
Commander-
Boltgun
4 vets
V1- Voxcaster
v2v3
Autocannon-
V4- Plasma Gun - = 82pts total


HQ: Lord Commissar
Power weapon-
Carapace Armor
Camo cloak-= 100pts total

Troops:
PCS-
Commander-
Boltgun
1G- Voxcaster-
2g3G HWT autocannon-
4G Plasma Gun = 62pts total

Infantry Squad-
Infantry Squad-
Infantry Squad-
Infantry Squad-
Infantry Squad- = 250pts

HWS-
Autocannon-
Hws-
autocannon-
HWS
autocannon-= 195pts

SWS-
3x Plasma gun - =80pts

Troop: Vet Squad-
Boltpistol-
Power weapon-
V1- Melta-
V2- Melta-
V3-Melta-
V4v5- Autocannon- = 112pts

Troop: Vet Squad-
Boltpistol-
Power weapon-
V1- Melta-
V2- Melta
V3-Melta-
V4v5- Autocannon- = 112pts

Troop: Vet Squad-
Boltpistol-
Power weapon-
V1- Melta-
V2- Melta-
V3-Melta-
V4v5- Autocannon- = 112pts

Fast attack: Vendetta
Fast attack: Vendetta
Fast attack: Vendetta = 390pts

total is 1495pts. The V1= Veteran 1 like 1 vet with melta and so on for the G1. Just what I used when making the list to help me remember how many upgrades were being used in the squad.

Put voxs in your infantry squads or they won't get the re-roll bonus. Both platoon and company CMD squads are equipped for too many rolls, move the plasma to your CMD squad and move the auto-cannons to your infantry squad.

The list seem ok for a normal game but I see almost any tau and elder list mowing through this.

Yea, I was thinking of maybe adding some armor to the list. I'm tempted to drop maybe the special weapons squad and a hws and possibly 2 infantry squads to fit in some tanks.

Thanks for the suggestions Kinratha!

I really wanted to add in some Stormtroopers but damn are they expensive.

Suicide storm troopers could be useful, if you add armor, I'd recommend dropping the SWS and moving there weapons into you more Elite unit. Move the heavy weapon squads into your infantry blobs so they help out at range.

On adding tanks make sure to take at least 2 and that you specialize them for 1 task. Vanquisher for armor, exterminator gun boat for infantry or executioner for Elite units. And if all else fails the Demolisher can take on everything but flying units.

Yea, I was thinking 2 tanks, haven't decided on which yet. We have several players at the store i go to and they're all pretty diverse. I think with 3 vendettas I could handle most flyers correct? or is 3 overkill and maybe I should go with 2?

Looks pretty good. The number of vendettas depends on how many fliers you face on a regular basis. If it's only two or three, then you could easily get by with a couple. The main tweak that I would probably make is to drop the special weapon squad as they stand out like a sore thumb. With the points saved I'd look at getting some power axes and possibly melta bombs in your blob squad. Sergeants with axes put out three attacks each, and you'd be surprised how good a blob is in assault with the sheer numbers plus the power weapon attacks.

HWS are easily targetted, and rendered useless, better put your HW in the IS.

Same with special weapon squad, and if you want a squad with a strong killing potentiel : vet.
Vet full plasma, with demolition specialisation. You'll throw the demolition charge + 8 plasma shots. Even termies wont like it.

The lack of tanks might be a little handicap, you could always throw a basilisk and a demolisher, with just that, it'lltake "only" 300 points, while being able to bring the punch you may lack.

Alright, I'm going to take all the current suggestions and see what I can do to move some stuff around. Also is the way my Lord Commissar upgraded fairly decent?

I gave him a power sword to have some oomph should his blob get into cc, and the camo cloak to offer some decent saves. maybe I should give the blob camo cloaks as well to make them somewhat survivable.


Edit: Updated list!

HQ: CCs-
Commander-
Plasma pistol
4 vets
V1- Voxcaster
v2- plasma gun
v3- plasma gun
V4- Plasma Gun - = 110pts total


HQ: Lord Commissar
Power weapon-
Carapace Armor
Camo cloak-= 100pts total

Troops:
PCS-
Commander-
Boltgun
1G- Voxcaster-
2g3G HWT autocannon-
4G Plasma Gun = 62pts total

Infantry Squad-
sarge- power weapon
voxcaster
Infantry Squad-
sarge power weapon
voxcaster
Infantry Squad-
sarge power weapon
vox caster
Infantry Squad-
sarge power weapon
vox caster
Infantry Squad-
sarge power weapon
voxcaster = 325pts

Troop: Vet Squad-
Boltpistol-
Power weapon-
V1- Melta-
V2- Melta-
V3-Melta- = 102pts

Troop: Vet Squad-
Boltpistol-
Power weapon-
V1- Melta-
V2- Melta
V3-Melta- = 102pts

Troop: Vet Squad-
Boltpistol-
Power weapon-
V1- Melta-
V2- Melta-
V3-Melta- = 102pts

Heavy support:
Leman Russ Demolisher 165
Leman Russ Demolisher 165

Fast attack: Vendetta
Fast attack: Vendetta = 260

Alrighty this is with the adjustments, and I have just 7pts left over. Do I need just 1 Vox for the blob or 1 per IS? If so then that saves me atleast 20points. if not then yea.

If you run a blob only 1 infantry squad needs a vox. But if you keep the squads broken up you will want a vox on each one.

Since your doing a blob you only need one.

I dont really like the power weapons on guards, too weak base stats to be able to deal signifiant damages... BUT, it can work.

 tankboy145 wrote:
If you run a blob only 1 infantry squad needs a vox. But if you keep the squads broken up you will want a vox on each one.

Since your doing a blob you only need one.

Thanks, that's good to know, that gives me an additional 20pts to finagle with.

The power weapons are just what a suggestion I was given by grrfrank but I could always drop them and keep the points if need be.


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Damn though just realized I no longer have a way to get my 3rd vet squad close to melta stuff. Should I change their gear or find a way to get the third vendetta back in?

 Grepsd wrote:
I dont really like the power weapons on guards, too weak base stats to be able to deal signifiant damages... BUT, it can work.

When you've got a large blob, with multiple sergeants and possibly commissars in there as well, they add up in a hurry, with four attacks each on the charge. I'd definitely make them axes though, the initiative penalty doesn't make much difference as most units would strike ahead of you anyway, and the strength bonus and ap2 make a big difference. If you're running individual squads however, I agree it's not worth it. Like everything else with guard, it's the quantity that makes it work.

Anecdotal evidence I realise, but I've had a pair of dreadknights chopped up by a 50 man blob before. It takes a while, but they will grind through most things eventually, and with a commissar in there to make them stubborn and give them the reroll, they can lose combat every turn without breaking until you finally kill the enemy unit.

That's what I was thinking grrfrank. But what about the 3rd vet squad? I dropped a vendetta and the hws/sws to get the 2 demolishers in. Should I change the 3rd vet squads gear to be more ranged based?

Get Marbo, if anything he'll be a distraction to one unit for one round, not to mention he'll deliver that demo charge where you want it when he shows up.

Yea, was thinking about him. I'll see if I can get him in. Still thinking maybe I drop a demolisher and get the third vendetta back so all 3 vets have a ride. I wish storm troopers weren't so damn pricey!

Alrighty idk if this is a necro or not but I just finally got my pc back and am now able to edit my list. I've decided to try and make the 3rd vet squad stay back and be real shooty.

HQ: CCs-
Commander-
Plasma pistol
4 vets
V1- Voxcaster
v2- plasma gun
v3- plasma gun
V4- Plasma Gun - = 110pts total


HQ: Lord Commissar
Power weapon-
Carapace Armor
Camo cloak-= 100pts total

Troops:
PCS-
Commander-
Boltgun
1G- Voxcaster-
2g3G HWT autocannon-
4G Plasma Gun = 62pts total

Infantry Squad-
sarge- power weapon
voxcaster
Infantry Squad-
sarge power weapon
Infantry Squad-
sarge power weapon
Infantry Squad-
sarge power weapon
Infantry Squad-
sarge power weapon = 305pts

Troop: Vet Squad-
Boltpistol-
Power weapon-
V1- Melta-
V2- Melta-
V3-Melta- = 102pts

Troop: Vet Squad-
Boltpistol-
Power weapon-
V1- Melta-
V2- Melta
V3-Melta- = 102pts

Troop: Vet Squad-
Boltpistol-
Power weapon-= 82pts

Heavy support:
Leman Russ Demolisher 165
Leman Russ Demolisher 165

Fast attack: Vendetta
Fast attack: Vendetta = 260

Comes out to a grand 1453 points. which leaves me 47 pts to fiddle around with and equip that 3rd vanilla vet squad with something to make it shooty. any suggestions? I was thinking maybe an autocannon, and plasmaguns? maybe even give it a vox to receive orders better since it will be staying behind and more then likely holding objectives. or would i be better scrapping this 3rd vet squad and maybe having another platoon with a blob? ugh or maybe a aegis defence line to help with my blob.

sorry just at a loss as to what to do with my 3rd vets since they dont have a ride anymore