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First off can a shoota boy mob's nob take a PK? And can a nob take a big shoota and PK by upgrading a boy to carry a big shoota and then upgrading him to take a PK?

Yes. No (EDIT: actually, maybe 'yes'... Grimskul makes a good point).

Check the Ork FAQ and please post this kind of question in YMDC

Yes to the first question, it is answered in the Ork FAQ down here. Page 6.

http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m3180058a_Orks_v1.4_APRIL13.pdf

I would arguably say yes to the second as well since it says any Ork in the unit, not an Ork Boy specifically so I think it should be fine. Also it makes sense fluff wise given that the Nob would "confiscate" any weapons better than his an Ork smaller than him would have.

Also, I'm not sure if nobs took Big Shootas in an older codex or what.. but there is this metal model on GW's website;

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440264a&prodId=prod1060144

Nob with Klaw and Big Shoota, could only even be considered possible in a boyz group.

Yes, and yes.

Though with the Precision Shooting and such, I rarely use that approach. Sucks to lose both the Special and Nob in one shot.

Yes you can.

Pg 88 shows a Nob with both,

The Nob in a mob is still an Ork.

The rule for big shoota says that one Ork per 10 can have one.

Having a big shoota doesn't remove his choppa, which is what you are trading for a PK.

Not really worth it though.

I'd not take both powerklaw and bigshoota. Bigshoota is 2-handed, nope? Only Ghazy uses a bigshoota in one hand and that's probably cause his arms are too huge for a regular shoota

Big shoota is not 2-handed ruleswise, unlike (for example) a Big Choppa. Two-handed usually only applies to melee weapons, unless you have a truly ancient codex that lists wargear by one handed, 2 handed etc.

Several of my orks are holding their Big Shoota one-handed. Might explain their abysmal aiming capabilities.

Well orkses usually shoot in general direction of a target. So nothing can go wrong with a bigshoota in 1 hand, eh?

Mine are mostly firing them in the air

They only carry them as noisemakers on the way to melee anyway, being da old-skool Warboss dat i iz.

Well, at least the nob can make precision strikes with about 50% of his bigshoota hits. And "look out sir!" hits away from himself and his big shoota, which a big shoota boy cant.
Furthermore, as the nob cant get an extra attack from 2 CCW anyway, because of the powerklaw, the mob would have an extra shoota in place of a puny slugga. (or alternatively, an extra attack from a slugga boy, if you were to field slugga mobs with big shootas).

But, before you go kitbash all your nobs full special weapons, wait for the new codex

Considering that your average mob of 30 non-AOBR boyz comes with 3 nobz and 6 big shootaz, I'd just kitbash away

Britneyfan12 wrote:

But, before you go kitbash all your nobs full special weapons, wait for the new codex

yep we might accidentally get something useful

Oh and i'd not use any special weapons on slugga boyz at all (actually i'd not use slugga boyz at all in 6 ed). They want to run forward instead of shooting. Also they don't want to kill many things when they're in assault range. Cause they won't be able to kill enough with those 12' pistols and if they do kill some extra closest models it's gona be harder to charge.

I've actually had good luck with slugga Boyz I was facing a 15 man guard squad with a commissar and I had 10 Boyz left In the mob and the Boyz were backed by three cannons. All three cannons fired their bast slots and one scattered off but the other two bit and they softened the unit up (removing 8 models) the Boyz then fired their sluggas and the sluggas killed all the guardsmen but 1 and the commissar

Practice shows that shoota boyz are >> than slugga boyz nowadays. It's harder and harder to charge + u're eating overwatch that's even increasing the charge range. Even so, u're low ini and if there are enough enemies left - they'll kill the closest boyz and with just a 3' pile in move you have real chances not to hit in return at all cause all the closest models are gona die. I had such issues. So in many situations now it's just better to lean for moar dakka than chopping. Also orkse's shootaboyz overwatch is awesome!

Sluggas can outperform shootas in trukk rush lists, but not always and never in any other use.

I have 3 of the new codexes and it really looks like a Nob will be a upgrade that will have their own weapon selections (as in Ranged and Melee) in the new codex. That seems to be the common forula, though there are some units in the Chaos Codex that are somewhat unclear (Chosen). I could see something funky in a Nob Squad for example being set up like a Chosen squad. So yeah, if you /do/ make these guys, break out your magnets just incase!

People say that its harder to charge, but I don't face Tau or Eldar. ....ever. So turn one, Trukk moves 12 inches forward, then flats out. I just put 4 or 5 PKon your doorstep backed by a lot of boyz, and you have to go through the trukks to get to them.

I dunno, most of the time I prefer the extra attack. I use lootas for anything I really need to shoot at, and the dakkajet guarentees the kill when she waaghs.

Getting the charge just takes some patience, keen manuvering of the trukks. Kareen sometimes puts dude in a really stupid spot for your opponent to deal with now. Accept your loses, they're just boyz.

Orks a designed to be durable by loosing lots of cheep expendable guys. Boyz will die and if they don't you are the best 40k Player in the world. Only 1 Ork list is designed to soak damage and be survivable and thats Gazwing. All Manz Army in BW's fun as hell until you face a Grav Spam army.

As for the main question. PK always for a Nob Leader.

However, there are some cases i'd not recommend taking nob at all. For example for a 20-shoota boy footslogging squad if you have other striking forces like battlewagonz or bikernobz. 20 shootaboyz are gona be forced to spend 4 turns just moving forward. So by the time they reach mellee it's gona be late game and i believe those 40-50 points are better used earlier. Also i'd not take nob for a distraction truck with 12 shootaboyz. Trucknobz usually ain't making it anywhere and remaining boyz are not enough to soak wounds to bring such a threat like a pk nob to the enemy lines.
All in all, don't put a pk nob on what's meant to be dirt cheap.