it seems like the legion astartes were weak minded

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**Scipio Africanus**

Gorgrimm wrote:
Yes. There is quite a bit in the Black Library books on the Horus Heresy. There were thousands of Death Guard, Emperor's Children, World Eaters, Luna Wolves/Sons of Horus, etc. that were "cut loose" and killed on Istvaan III.

As a matter of fact, two of the commanders were part of Horus' inner group, the Mournival.

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Isstvan_III#.UsDZNUDgoVE

SO far as that goes, they may change all of that in a few years. There's been some really strange things with the background lately, Blood Angels siding with Necrons or something?

I believe One of Horus' Mournival even became a part of the Grey knights.

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Kerrathyr wrote:
Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
chaos0xomega wrote:
The Alpha Legion remain a total mystery to me (and everyone else evidently) not really sure what their deal is and whether or not they were really traitors

The Alpha Legion are of course traitors, seeing as they sided with Horus but they did so for the right reasons.
I like to think that Chaos "interfered" with the reasons of Alpha Legion turning, I mean:

Spoiler:

Alpha Legion did exactly what supposedly the Cabal suggested... This is akin to Horus 'dream', iirc, when wounded, where he sees the Emperor scattering the pods containing the primarchs...
The dream is manipulated by chaos to feed Horus's sense of abandonement... So, in the same way, Chaos interferes with Alpharius vision, so he sees grim and worse possibilities instead of hope...and probably realizes it too late

I don't personally think that the Alpha legion are Chaos. They're renegade, sure, but they don't do mutations and while they do fight with the loyal marines, it's not necessarily to further the glory of chaos.