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Sorry I just felt like spelling like that as it is a ork question
But I mean okrs believe red makes stuff go faster..... So it does?
They believe that the stuff mek boys make work..... So it does o_o
But how many would it take to say they're going to win a battle or does it even affect these kind of things?

I'm guessing it could go like this.

Jeff da ork: aw lost me tuff de uder dai hopes I cun get a knew un *belives*
*the next day*
Jeff: yay! Now me can get sum squigz

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You fool me twice, I don't really like you.
You fool me three times, your officially that guy.
 
   
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Papua New Guinea

The idea that ork technology works just because they think it should is a theory proposed by Lukas Anzion, an in-universe character. The whole thing has been blown way out of proportion on various forums. Take it with a pinch of salt.

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Ork teef, specifically, grow back very quickly... and rot fairly quickly, too, so it's a self-stabilizing, self-sustaining economy. Of course, if you find yourself a bit short, you can always go knock the teef out of that runt over there.

The Orky psychic field does not permit an Ork to pick up a metal tube and have it act as a slugga. It has to be a functional firearm (no matter how basic, rough-built, or primitive) in order for the Orky psychic field to provide it a little "oomph" to make it the loud, dread killy shootas and sluggas that Orks love so much. This weapon will still function in the hands of a human being, but it will be just like any other gun made out of scrap metal and scavenged parts: prone to jamming, unreliable and likely to have the chamber blow apart in your face.

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 Gogsnik wrote:
The idea that ork technology works just because they think it should is a theory proposed by Lukas Anzion, an in-universe character. The whole thing has been blown way out of proportion on various forums. Take it with a pinch of salt.


Unless I've got the wrong person it even says that there are problems with his theories, and he tends to exaggerate heavily. I haven't seen any actual proof that "Orks believe it so it's true" but everyone seems to say it's like that, even when provided with an actual explanation for why something like red paint appears to make things go faster.
   
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Papua New Guinea

Well the character, I guess we can call him that, appeared in Da Uvver Book from GorkaMorka where he presented a long thesis on ork evolution. This gave us the new 'background' of orks reproducing via spores. The same character was used in the 3rd Edition Codex: Orks. Some of Da Uvver Book was reprinted there with the additonal material authored by Anzion suggesting that ork technology works because they think it should.

However, Anzion's work is presented by another Genetor, Tethlisiam, who says that even Anzion himself acknowledges that aspects of his work on orks is 'baseless conjecture' and Tethlisiam adds that Anzion's work is 'highly suspect' due to the level of speculation.

So, in-universe, one Genetor has several theories about the orks. Is he right, is he wrong? The other Genetor seems to agree with the reproduction via spores and this is how the Games Designers have presented the orks since Da Uvver Book. I guess we can take it as read that orks reproduce via spores. As to the other 'theories' then in-universe, there seems to be some doubt as to the validity of Anzion's ideas so, as I say, the notion of ork technology working because they think it should, should be taken with a pinch of salt.

A lot of posters on various forums present the idea as hard fact however.

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Well, there actually is that rule about vehicles going faster just because they are red.
So I guess it is pretty canon.

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Papua New Guinea

Everyone knows red ones go faster! Even faster still if you put some stripes down the sides too...

Hardly makes Anzion's theory canon. Besides, the idea pre-dates the 3rd Edition Codex: Orks; nine years in the case of Waaargh The Orks! And why do 'red wunz go fasta'? 'stands to reason dunnit'.

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There are a few things that Validate Anzions theories in-universe, such as guns that will not fire in the hands of non Orks and then found to have disconnected wires, missing firing pins, or just flat out no way for the ammo to move into the receiver; yet in the hands of an Ork they work just fine.

Also the red ones deal, and the Psychic Strength of a weirdboy once a Good an propa WAAAAGH! has been worked up.

I will agree that the Tinkerbelle effect is overplayed on many forums, it is there. It is just that it is not a single Ork who believes enough, it is the race as a whole that believes in Cause and effect, where there needn't be "Perfect circumstances" between the Cause and the effect, only that you pull the trigger and Dakka Happens, Or Red Ones Go fasta, and Blue is good luck so you will find the best gubbins(which actually just goes back to the weirdboy deal where the Boyz in Blue are Psychically finding the best gubbins, aided by the Blue, but it is not actually the Blue that helped it is the psychic nature of the race as a whole).

And yeah, weirdboyz are just a Psychic Locus.

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Since this a ork thread, do they have a word for angels?

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Bishop F Gantry wrote:
Since this a ork thread, do they have a word for angels?


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Papua New Guinea

 Kommissar Kel wrote:
There are a few things that Validate Anzions theories in-universe, such as guns that will not fire in the hands of non Orks and then found to have disconnected wires, missing firing pins, or just flat out no way for the ammo to move into the receiver; yet in the hands of an Ork they work just fine.


Again, according to Anzion. That's what he says an he doesn't even give any examples of where this has been tested; ie servitor 1 pulls trigger, nothing happens, captured ork 1 forced to pull trigger of same gun, gun now shoots.

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I'm guessing it has to do with.... numbers... mostly. The endless numbers of Orks ALL believing that red goes faster in theory will generate enough warp disturbance for it to leak into reality. Just like the what IoM does. The Imperial citizens believing in the Emprah gives him strength in the warp (not sure if cannon).


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Fort Campbell

A while back GW produced a fluff book about a mechanicus facility that had a number of captured xenos within it, and it examined aspects of their society, technology, and biology.

They referenced having an ork gun on hand, and the mechanicus adepts could not figure out how to make it fire as it was. They put it into the hands of the ork, and it worked just fine. The hypothesis was that their technology was powered by a psychic field that orks produced. They believed in something, so it just works.

But to your question, all it takes is a single ork to make certain simple things work. The more complex, the more it'll take.

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Washington, DC

This is also thrown off by the lack of primary sources available to Orks- as a species, they are... Shall we say "poor at self-reflection"? So all the codex fluff on how things work is written from the perspective of the Imperium, or Eldar, or some other "thinky" race. So while Anzion may not have written a peer-reviewed study in the small text box provided on that page of the codex, he is GW's only way of imparting truths about the 40k universe to us without being dry and boring.

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