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Made in au
Whiteshield Conscript Trooper



Melbourne, Australia

Just looking for feedback on my list, will be played mostly against GK, Orks, Tau, Chaos and Blood Angels

Company Command Squad: Lord Castellan Creed; 4× plasma gun. 255
Chimera: heavy flamer

Guardsman Marbo 65

Veteran Squad: 3× meltagun; Demolitions. 185
Chimera: heavy flamer
Platoon Command Squad: 4× plasma gun. 90
Infantry Squad: Sergeant; plasma gun; Heavy Weapons Team (autocannon). 75
Infantry Squad: Sergeant; plasma gun; Heavy Weapons Team (autocannon). 75
Infantry Squad: Sergeant; plasma gun; Heavy Weapons Team (autocannon). 75
Heavy Weapon Squad: 3× autocannon. 75
Heavy Weapon Squad: 3× autocannon. 75

1 Leman Russ Squadron 355
Leman Russ Battle Tank: sponson heavy bolters
Leman Russ Demolisher: sponson heavy flamers
1 Hydra Flak Tank 75

Aegis Defence Lines: gun emplacement with quad-gun. 100

1,500 points

What do you think?

EDIT: Updated list

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2014/01/02 12:23:56


 
   
Made in fr
Guardsman with Flashlight





3 scoring unit, hidden in chimera. Your opponent only has to destroy the chimeras to win the game, cause, let's be honest, 4 chimera wont last forever.

You lack of AP 2 weapons, what's in the chimera wont be able damage a lot of targets.

You lack of units, you'll have 10 tanks, and.... 36 dudes. You might think the 10 tanks will be impressive, the scadrons will allow your opponent to destroy 3 leman in a single turn with a good tank hunter unit.

You are playing without barrage, or almost, the leman russ arent barrage since they NEED a LOS, and the manticore is good, but D3 + only AP 4.


The list isnt bad, it just lack of mass to me, flyers arent mandatory and you took something to deal with them. So in the end , the real problems fo this list are the lack of ap 2 and the lack of "tough" scoring units.

That said, this list will prolly work well against a lot of people, but beware, 10vets arent though, they'll fall appart with a shot of bolter.
   
Made in au
Whiteshield Conscript Trooper



Melbourne, Australia

How about if I removed the Chimera from the flamer unit, and a lascannon from a leman russ, and used those points to by another Veteran squad?

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/01/02 07:47:37


 
   
Made in fr
Guardsman with Flashlight





Oh yeah, lascanon on leman russ aren't that great anymore, since they fixed the behemot rule, you can drop them and have some points, true.

I'm not sure you need a unit with flamers, since you have the leman russ squadron and the manticore to deal with a mass of targets, yes, the ignore cover is nice, but you might want to take... let's say... melta + demolition specialist.

Never underestimate the power of a demolition charge.

But it all depends on what you want to do, and what you expect to fight, my advices are cause i'm used to fight against mechs... a lot of them, pricey lil paladins for example.

You might want to drop a LMBT and the manticore to get a squadron of two demolishers ..

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/01/02 07:53:57


 
   
Made in au
Whiteshield Conscript Trooper



Melbourne, Australia

Demolishers?
   
Made in fr
Guardsman with Flashlight





Leman russ demolisher, Str10AP2, change a lot of thing.
   
Made in au
Whiteshield Conscript Trooper



Melbourne, Australia

Ok. I was actually thinking to change it to something like this:

Company Command Squad: Company Commander (power weapon; melta bombs); 4× plasma gun. 180
Chimera: heavy flamer

Guardsman Marbo 65

Veteran Squad: meltagun; plasma gun. 150
Chimera: heavy flamer
Veteran Squad: meltagun; plasma gun. 150
Chimera: heavy flamer
Platoon Command Squad: 4× plasma gun
Infantry Squad: Sergeant; meltagun
Infantry Squad: Sergeant; meltagun
Infantry Squad: Sergeant; meltagun
Special Weapon Squad: 2× meltagun; demolition charge. 340

1 Leman Russ Squadron 380
Leman Russ Executioner: sponson plasma cannons
Leman Russ Battle Tank
Manticore Rocket Launcher 160
1 Hydra Flak Tank 75

1,500 points


Automatically Appended Next Post:
I edited my first post, but you might not have got it. I mostly play against Tau, Orks, GK & Chaos

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/01/02 08:06:02


 
   
Made in fr
Guardsman with Flashlight





I'm not sure, but i dont think mixing weapons in a squad is a good idea, a squad of veterants with demolition + melta gun will be able to bring down "any" armored target, and they will be cost efficient, most of the time, they'll be able to do more than just remove one vehicule.

A full plasma will be able to destroy MEQ like they do not even exist, which is what you want of them, getthem the demolition charge, and they'll surely kill their target and be able to assault any vehicule being a bit too close to them, melta bombs are really efficients.

Give your squad some specific order, and task, BUT give them the possibility to handle various situation, one melta and one plasma wont allow you to target any vehicule efficiently, remember the 3HP for most of them...

The infantry squad arent meant to charge to me, the best for them is the autocanon, and sitting being an ADL, if you dont want the ADL, dont take it, but dont make your squads runs, they wont have enough cover and resilience to survive a shooting phase.

The special weapon squad are wortheless... sadly, whatever they can do, the vets do it better. And for almost the same price.

The executionner is good, but a too expensive, and it cant deal with vehicules, the demolisher brings everything you want when playing at 1500 points, it's up to you, but it's really effective.

The Company Commad squad has BS4, but they are your warlord, if they get in range, they're dead, and they'll cost you a lot (points, victory points, and tactical power (they give orders)), and the power weapon isn't viable, for me, without using some combo with the codex inquisition.

Remember, it's only my point of view, if it doesnt suit you, just dont follow it.
   
Made in au
Whiteshield Conscript Trooper



Melbourne, Australia

Thank you, I'm going to work on it for a while.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Original list updated to new one, review that one.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/01/02 12:25:00


 
   
 
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