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As the title says, I'm looking to add a second land raider to my DW list. I already have a LRC that transports my DWK squad around and I'm not sure what to add for my next raider. Right now I'm leaning towards the phobos for the couple extra long range shots. I know it isn't "efficient", but I play DW so efficiency isn't my main concern. So what would my fellow dakka members recommend for a second raider? Thanks in advance.

I always advocate the Redeemer pattern. 12 Capacity means you have room for 5 Terminators and an IC in TDA. Though if you're running Knights and sticking them in a Land Raider, I would suggest adding an Interrogator Chaplain in TDA with the Mace of Redemption. 6 CC models is really all you need if they're gonna sit in a box the first turn or two. As for weapons loadout, two Hellstorm Flamers and a TL-Assault Cannon makes for a lot of short ranged annihilation. If you need long range fire support I suggest investing in Devastators with Lascannons or the Firestorm Redoubt Fortification as detailed in the new Stronghold Assault book.

Take the Phobos. You know you want the Godhammers. The LRC and LRR are glorified taxies, the classic LR is actually a tank. Sure, you pay a lot of points for options you might be underutilizing, but do it anyway. Where else are you going to get long range AT fire in a DW army?

It's classic, looks cool, and kills things across the table. Do it!

 Nevelon wrote:
Take the Phobos. You know you want the Godhammers. The LRC and LRR are glorified taxies, the classic LR is actually a tank. Sure, you pay a lot of points for options you might be underutilizing, but do it anyway. Where else are you going to get long range AT fire in a DW army?

It's classic, looks cool, and kills things across the table. Do it!

This is pretty much what I was thinking. Guess my DW will be getting a new standard LR in a couple weeks!

Anything but the standard Land Raider. If you want long-range anti-tank firepower, take a tri-las predator for way cheaper.

I agree with Ren on the Redeemer. It and the Crusader actually know what they're doing on the battlefield. Though honestly I prefer the Redeemer's weapons over the crusaders, I know some people are iffy about using those flame sponsons. Get it a multi-melta and you're good to go. Great all-around tank that is great against MEQ with the flamestorms, and also great against tanks of any form with the assault cannon and multi-melta. Something to think about; a TL-assault cannon is nearly as likely to pen AV14 as a TL-Lascannon, it might actually be more!

While I agree that a pred would offer a more efficient platform, but I'm playing fluffy DW so if it's not a LR them I won't field it in this particular army.

I want to like the LRR but I just can't seem to wrap my head around the flame storm cannons. They dominate just about anything they touch but I'm not sure. I've never used them so I have no personal experience, but they could synergize better with the LRC. Still leaning towards the phobos but maybe more research is needed.

Since you are looking to get into assault anyway, the LRR will provide more a threat to go alongside your LRC+DWK. Unless it is carrying something nasty, a standard Land Raider is not that worrisome.

The landraider standard pattern does not compliment the LRC very well strategically. They both want to operate differently, instead of together.

Either 2x standard land raiders, or 2 of the assault pattern landraiders imo (LRR/LRC mixes, user preference).

I have used an LRC all 5th, but I'm liking it less in 6th and am considering swapping it out for an LRR.

Magnets. Try playing a few games with a proxy LRR/LRC and see which one suits you better. If anything Magnetizing the weapons would allow you to switch on the fly if say you wanted to Deepstrike the Termies instead and bring two standard LRs or go with the assault patterns.

I'd say Godhammer, but that's just me. If you've got more marines you could be driving around, then a Redeemer would move from close second to number one pic.

The land raider will be a transport for a DWT squad, although a HS choice and not dedicated transport. It's a squad with a CML so I can have the tactical advantage of DWA if needed, walking up shooting if needed and the range of the CML helps if the raider gets taken out/immobilized early.

I do feel that the LRR synergizes better with the LRC but the standard LR does help provide that little bit of long range, high power shooting that DW lacks.

I would go for a Spartan. Quad lascannons, 5 hp, and can carry 12 terminators.

 Tannhauser42 wrote:
I would go for a Spartan. Quad lascannons, 5 hp, and can carry 12 terminators.

I'd like to add some FW models but as of right now that isn't possible. Only the 3 versions from the DA codex are what I have to choose from.

I'd go with a second LRC to be honest. Best troop transport capacity, best synergy with DA bolter banner and more effective at mid range and versus flying targets than a redeemer. Also can snap fire it's side sponsons without using machine spirit.

I find the range of the flamers on the redeemer to be counter intuitive to using it as an assault vehicle. When you are in range of the flamers then you are also in assault range for the unit inside. If they had torrent then it would be another matter.