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 BlaxicanX wrote:
I don't agree that Black Library is that inconsistent- the majority of incidents people use to assert that its inconsistent are actually just events with context that they either missed or ignored;

Though there really are contradictions. Obviously we've got Goto's numerous escapdes, but I can also point to smaller things, like the Cain novels re-writing how the Schola works. Notably, we even have the term "Abnett-hammer 40K" to describe how Dan Abnett's books have their own things in them that set them apart from the rest of the fluff.

But more notably, actual BL people have said that the canon is intentionally loose, and can adopt the mindset of "everything and nothing is true". Aaron Dembski-Bowden goes into some detail on it here. So, naturally, some contradicions (be they with studio fluff or other BL books) do happen sometimes. It doesn't make the books any less enjoyable (unless taken too far), but it's just something to keep in mind. The pieces don't always slot together, and they're not always intended to either.

 BlaxicanX wrote:
case in point, the marine being killed by a lasgun in First and Only, and the Marine being killed by the poison arrows in Traitor General: in the first instance, the marine was not wearing a helmet, and was shot in the face by what was basically a hot-shot lasgun in all but name, and in the second instance the Marine was not wearing a helmet, and was shot dozens of times in the face by arrows dipped in poison so deadly that they killed normal men instantly, these arrows were also sharp enough to penetrate flakk armor.

As I pointed out in the other thread, Storm of Iron is (apparently) still an example of Marines being killed by lasgun fire. Similarly, the Sisters in James Swallow's book are wary of lasgun fire, even though they too are clad in ceramite armour (and thus, according to some interpretations, immune to lasgun fire in the first place). So yeah, the exact nature of this issue has varied.

 BlaxicanX wrote:
Just an example of common instances Dakkaites bring up to cry about the Black Library, but are too stupid to remember the context for.

Hey now, no need for insults. Sometimes there are legitimate contradictions that people come across, be they differing details or just differences in tone. Nobody is wrong or stupid to raise these points, and it doesn't mean that they hate BL. I'm often noting various contradictions between studio and BL fluff, but I'm always part-way through a BL novel.

 BlaxicanX wrote:
The point is that certain people who believe that the BL is inconsistent have no problems with using it as evidence when it suits them, which is pretty contemptible.

Personally, I make a point of avoiding this. Whenever I refer to BL as an example of something, I tend to note that it may not line up with studio fluff.

 BrotherHaraldus wrote:
40K is filled to the brim with power fantasies.

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Harker#.UtWyDFvuJ8E for example.

I mean, the description of how he crushes the neck of a Ravener with his 'monstrous biceps' makes even me raise an eyebrow, and I am kind of hardened to these things.

Y'know, I don't think that it'd be too far a stretch to theorise that Harker is an abhuman of some kind, if we take his fluff as complete truth. I mean, the Sisters are some of the best trained human soldiers around and even they need power armour and a special gauntlet to use a heavy bolter. To me, that seems like it could be something beyond just being an exceptionally strong normal human. His Ravenor-slaying biceps certainly reinforce that too. I may be going a bit far, here, but that's just the impression I'm getting.

Edit: Though, mind you, he is from a brutal hell-hole of a world. So their "exceptionals" might seem like super-humans to us present-day Terrans.

 Melissia wrote:
GW is written by artists, however, not physicists

Except for Cruddace. He's both.