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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/09 03:05:43
Subject: Army without need of vehicules ?
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Dakka Veteran
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Hello everyone. I am calling on the tactical mind of more experienced players than me for the following big question : which army/ armies are good at fielding list without vehicules.
I think I must explain myself: I am as much an hobbyist as a player, and as such, I like to play with thing I assembled and painted myself. But I really hate assembling and painting vehicules. As such, I need to know which armies can be fielded without vehicules being almost mandatory (for exemple : rhinos for SM, Wave Serpent for Eldar, etc).
I think many of you are going to say ''daemons of course''. That's right. But apart from them ? Are they the only ones capable to answer my need ?
The only other option that comes to my mind is playing a bike army, but this kinda requires a lot of conversion and a bit of money.
Thx for your answers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/09 03:08:52
Subject: Army without need of vehicules ?
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Heroic Senior Officer
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Imperial guard and eldar. Like you vehicles arent something i enjoy too much. I play both of those with no vehicles frequently. Lately my tastes have been changing but still those 2 armies would be my suggestion.
Eldar without vehicles takes a lot of work though.
If you dont go to a GW store i advise guard because you have a variety of 3rd party models to use add variety and uniqueness.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/09 03:10:42
Subject: Army without need of vehicules ?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Tyrannids
1x Tyrannofex
2x 30 termagant
1x 10 gargoyles
1x 3 zoanthropes
1x venomthrope
1x 3 hive guard
I think that's decent for a nid army but does need sharpening up. The only problem would be lots of assembling/paiting
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/09 03:10:48
Subject: Army without need of vehicules ?
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Eldar jet bikes are plenty good without Wave Serpents. Tau don't need Hammerheads. Tyranids don't have any vehicles at all.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/09 03:18:06
Subject: Army without need of vehicules ?
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Storm Guard
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infantry tau is popular. (and suits look cool)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/09 03:22:30
Subject: Re:Army without need of vehicules ?
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Wise Ethereal with Bodyguard
Catskills in NYS
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Farsight Enclaves tau, you get crisis suits as troops. Who needs vehicles?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/09 03:24:20
Subject: Re:Army without need of vehicules ?
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Dakka Veteran
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Thx for all your answers ^^
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/09 04:13:32
Subject: Army without need of vehicules ?
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Slashing Veteran Sword Bretheren
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And don't forget about Daemons!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/09 04:17:47
Subject: Army without need of vehicules ?
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Long-Range Land Speeder Pilot
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Void Relay Network helps mitigate loss of vehicles for foot lists.
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Hail the Emperor. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/09 04:19:39
Subject: Army without need of vehicules ?
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Grisly Ghost Ark Driver
Some Tomb World in some galaxy by that one thing in that one place (or Minnesota for nosy people)
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White scar grav biker lists dont really need vehicles
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/09 04:20:51
Subject: Re:Army without need of vehicules ?
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Thunderhawk Pilot Dropping From Orbit
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Marines marines marines all the way. I have two transports in my entire 8k army and those are land raiders. I run mobs of tactical squads or combat squads. Try to use cover to your advantage. Boots over treads anyday.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/09 04:40:12
Subject: Re:Army without need of vehicules ?
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Savage Khorne Berserker Biker
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Actually a Dantewing army is not a horrible choice. All of the troops have "decent of angels" rule, 2+ saves, power weapons, and angelic bolters.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/09 04:42:16
Subject: Army without need of vehicules ?
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Nasty Nob
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Orks because 45 lootas and 180 models on the board.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/09 05:01:40
Subject: Army without need of vehicules ?
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Slashing Veteran Sword Bretheren
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So to summarize, the best armies with no vehicles are:
Tau - Battlesuits
Eldar - Footdar
Daemons - the only vehicles they have are chariots, and they suck anyway
Tyranids - no vehicles to speak of
Orks - Hordes and Hordes of boyz
Space Marine varieties:
White Scars - Do you count bikes as vehicles? if not this one is good
Dark Angels - Either ravenwing or deathwing. Although deathwing is good with a landraider
Blood Angels - Sure they have fast tanks, but you could mass assault troops and stay in cover
Black Templar - Hordes of Crusader squads! 10/10 squads
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/09 05:20:56
Subject: Re:Army without need of vehicules ?
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!!Goffik Rocker!!
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Orkses! Though orkse's vehicles are so fun they won't hurt your no-vehicle tastes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/09 05:40:47
Subject: Re:Army without need of vehicules ?
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Dakka Veteran
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Do CSM foot with mark of nurgle a viable option ?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/09 06:55:15
Subject: Re:Army without need of vehicules ?
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!!Goffik Rocker!!
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If you go full spawns and bikers - yes.
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Footslogging noize-marins are oki from time to time cause they can outshoot stuff within 24' though they need to get there most of the time and once again u'll probably need that rhino. Plague marines are nice even without a transport. But regular marines on foot are meh. No reason not to pay 35 pts for a rhino that can transport them where needed and provide some useful cover if still around. Anywayz, you can consider orkses without a trukk cause trukks are 10-10-10 opentopped and orkses are 6+... so when they kaboom - and trucks WILL kaboom even with s3 u're losing 1/3 of a squad and dealing with ld 7 for pinning-retreating. While 35 pts is 6 boyz. In case of marines 35 pts is 2 marines and they got 3+ armor save + rhino is more reliadble than a truck though if it explodes - it's s4.
Also, 10-strong plague marines with 2 plazmas and a combi-melta serg are 280 pts while regular nurgle marines are 210. So for 70 pts u're getting fnp, fearless, blight nades, 4+ poisoned knives and an extra ccw...totally worth it. And a nurgle biker lord is frightening.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/09 16:03:37
Subject: Re:Army without need of vehicules ?
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Wise Ethereal with Bodyguard
Catskills in NYS
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You can go full suit with farsight tau. HQ: Farsight, Commander Troops: 6 Crisis teams Elites: A mix of riptides and stealth suits Fast Attack: 3 XV9 hazard teams Heavy Support: A mix of broadsides and (if you have enough money) Ra'varnas So many suits...
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Homosexuality is the #1 cause of gay marriage.
kronk wrote:Every pizza is a personal sized pizza if you try hard enough and believe in yourself.
sebster wrote:Yes, indeed. What a terrible piece of cultural imperialism it is for me to say that a country shouldn't murder its own citizens BaronIveagh wrote:Basically they went from a carrot and stick to a smaller carrot and flanged mace. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/09 16:10:55
Subject: Army without need of vehicules ?
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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Dont forget Grey Knights and their shunting units to get to grips with the enemy without needing transports and a hard infantry base to hold their own lines. Add in a wall and quad gun along with coatez and a merry bunch of monkeys and crusaders for the wall and your set without a single vehicle. (I'm considering dreadknights as monstrous creatures).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/09 16:48:10
Subject: Re:Army without need of vehicules ?
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Boosting Space Marine Biker
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Necrons can quite easily do it. wraithwing is usually backed up by massed flyers dropping troops onto objectives, however Necrons also have access to the Veil of darkness allowing you to teleport units round the board as you see fit. you would have to give up the destroyer lords to get the royal court members to do it though. you also have access to deathmarks who deepstrike as standard, and if you like, though by no means a great option, flayed ones who also deep strike.
Necrons can also go for a horde of MC's, with C'tan, Spyders acting as a scarab farm, again, backed up by some warriors or immortals with crypteks with VoD's for hillarious maneuverability.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/09 16:53:34
Subject: Army without need of vehicules ?
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
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My tread head mind just couldn't fathom what your suggesting .......
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Motto of the Imperial Guard " If its worth bringing one its worth bringing three"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/09 17:06:36
Subject: Army without need of vehicules ?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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ORKS!!!
Green Tide, baby! You don't need trucks if you're marching with 200 orks!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/09 17:33:25
Subject: Army without need of vehicules ?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I run an all foot Ig army,which is heavily converted and themed.
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Imperial Guard
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