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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/10 23:14:43
Subject: Lord of war: Avatar of tzeentch
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Irked Necron Immortal
gravesend kent
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Avatar of Tzeentch 1500pts
Unit type: Gargantuan Monstrous Creature
WS8 BS10 S9 T9 W8 I9 A8 LD10 SV-
Special Rules: Daemon of Tzeentch, Fearless, Psyker, Eternal Warrior,
Chaos God: The avatar of tzeentch is immune to the effects of D weapons, and all psykers who target the avatar oof tzeentch take psychic tests on 3D6 and suffer a perils of the warp on a roll of any doubles. And its attacks have the Instant Death and concussive special rules And has a 3+ invulnerable save.
Psyker: The avatar of Tzeentch is a mastery level 5 psyker who knows all the powers from the discipline of change and can roll on every discipline table from the 40k rulebook once and Iits leadership is always 10 for psychic tests no matter what.
Tzeentch: The Avatar of Tzeentch never suffers a perils of the warp result and has no restriction on the amount of witchfire powers it may use. The Avatar of Tzeentch may only be included in an army that only has models with the mark or daemon of tzeentch special rule or models that are not dedicated to anyother chaos god.
Many faces of Tzeentch: All enemy units within 6'' of the Avatar of tzeentch must pass a leadership test using its lowest leadership when attempting to move, shoot, run, assault or fight in combat.
Options:
May have up to 5 rolls on any of the psychic disipline tables below:
Biomancy 25pts per roll
Telepathy 25pts per roll
Divination 20pts per roll
Telekinesis 15pts per roll
Pyromancy 10pts per roll
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2014/01/11 08:58:06
6th ed w/l/d
=3000pts 39/19/2
The Mavelance Dynasty=4000pts 28/42/6
short stories:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/558468.page
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/558967.page#6170866
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/559971.page |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/10 23:32:13
Subject: Lord of war: Avatar of tzeentch
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Lord of the Fleet
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No.
The Daemon Lord of Tzeench who's name I'm not going to begin to try to spell is the same points, and he's already considered a bit OP. I stopped reading this when I got to "Immune to D Weapons", since it's clear that you want this guy to be "so super-duper awesome special snowflake who didn't afraid of anything!!!!!11111!!!!!!"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/10 23:40:41
Subject: Lord of war: Avatar of tzeentch
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Battleship Captain
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Valkyrie wrote:No.
The Daemon Lord of Tzeench who's name I'm not going to begin to try to spell is the same points, and he's already considered a bit OP. I stopped reading this when I got to "Immune to D Weapons", since it's clear that you want this guy to be "so super-duper awesome special snowflake who didn't afraid of anything!!!!!11111!!!!!!"
summed up.
i would say this creature is closer to 2000pts. Namely because he is immune to D weapons.
EDIT:
He also is confusing powers. Can do things for more rolls? IDK. But i wouldn't want to play apoc with this thing even if i had a hundred titans.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/11 00:57:33
Subject: Lord of war: Avatar of tzeentch
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Hallowed Canoness
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I think you dropped a couple of figures. More like 9999 points.
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"That time I only loaded the cannon with powder. Next time, I will fill it with jewels and diamonds and they will cut you to shrebbons!" - Nogbad the Bad. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/11 08:57:11
Subject: Re:Lord of war: Avatar of tzeentch
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Irked Necron Immortal
gravesend kent
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Yea, just every one remember this is not real. Its just an idea im expressing so no one go have a heart attack over it ok.
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6th ed w/l/d
=3000pts 39/19/2
The Mavelance Dynasty=4000pts 28/42/6
short stories:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/558468.page
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/558967.page#6170866
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/559971.page |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/11 09:36:27
Subject: Lord of war: Avatar of tzeentch
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Disguised Speculo
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No one is having a heart attack over it necronspurs.
As a rule of thumb, when your description is
he can do this, and this, and this, and this, and this, and this, oh, and this
You should step back and think, am I overdoing it a little here?
On the plus side, at least some of his stats aren't "10"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/11 10:24:08
Subject: Lord of war: Avatar of tzeentch
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Irked Necron Immortal
gravesend kent
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Dakkamite wrote:No one is having a heart attack over it necronspurs.
As a rule of thumb, when your description is
he can do this, and this, and this, and this, and this, and this, oh, and this
You should step back and think, am I overdoing it a little here?
On the plus side, at least some of his stats aren't "10"
Only one is ten and it is an avatar of a chaos god and just for fun.
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6th ed w/l/d
=3000pts 39/19/2
The Mavelance Dynasty=4000pts 28/42/6
short stories:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/558468.page
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/558967.page#6170866
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/559971.page |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/11 10:31:34
Subject: Lord of war: Avatar of tzeentch
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Lord of the Fleet
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necronspurs2012 wrote: Dakkamite wrote:No one is having a heart attack over it necronspurs.
As a rule of thumb, when your description is
he can do this, and this, and this, and this, and this, and this, oh, and this
You should step back and think, am I overdoing it a little here?
On the plus side, at least some of his stats aren't "10"
Only one is ten and it is an avatar of a chaos god and just for fun.
Well if it's just for fun, why bother puttting it here then?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/11 10:40:56
Subject: Lord of war: Avatar of tzeentch
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Irked Necron Immortal
gravesend kent
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Valkyrie wrote: necronspurs2012 wrote: Dakkamite wrote:No one is having a heart attack over it necronspurs.
As a rule of thumb, when your description is
he can do this, and this, and this, and this, and this, and this, oh, and this
You should step back and think, am I overdoing it a little here?
On the plus side, at least some of his stats aren't "10"
Only one is ten and it is an avatar of a chaos god and just for fun.
Well if it's just for fun, why bother puttting it here then?
Because I wanted to.
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6th ed w/l/d
=3000pts 39/19/2
The Mavelance Dynasty=4000pts 28/42/6
short stories:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/558468.page
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/558967.page#6170866
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/559971.page |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/11 10:44:36
Subject: Lord of war: Avatar of tzeentch
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Angered Reaver Arena Champion
Connah's Quay, North Wales
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If you don't want peoples opinion as well as their rules advise then I am not sure what you want. I mean fluff wise he is a monstrousity, a Chaos God could never manifest in the material plane. Rule Wise he is very unclear, does he simply ignore all D strength blasts coming at him, as if they wheren't there? Why? If you want to make him more resilient to them give him a 4+ Invul that you can SPECIFCALLY take against anything OR make him a Flying Gargantuan Creature so no D strength blasts can hit him. Then you are one of the better protected models on the same scale as a phantom titian. Also when you say his attacks have the instant death rule, does this only apply in combat or to al his witchfires as well, if it's a melee thing then why not have it as a melee weapon? Stat-line is also weird, most authors either pick 8's OR 9's yet you have both, I would recommend being 8's.
For your Psyker Rule I am confused, is he a Level 5 that HAS to take Lore of Tzeentch and then buys extra spells, or is he a level 5 that knows lore of Tzeentch in addition to what he rolls? How does your Ldship 10 rule work with the Multiple Modifiers rule, because you give no permission for this rule to supersede other Codex Special Rules, examples being Grey Knight Aegis and Tyranid Shadow in the Warp. The way it is now EVERY time you wanted to cast at such a unit you would have to roll off with your opponent to see what rule takes precedence.
Many Faces of Tzentch, only rule that seems fine to me. Over all I think that before posting think of all the little loop holes a TFG could totally screw you over with. Once that's dealt with ask if YOU would want to play against it.
Also, an Idea for fluff that won't kill every fluff bunny within 12 miles; Every eon or so, Tzeentch drifts into a deep sleep staring into the well of eternity. It is these times where his mind wanders between the strands of reality that he gains his insights of everything that is. But while his mind wanders, his brain is dreaming. The dreams of Chaos Gods are powerful things, because while Mortal dreams form in the Warp, the dreams of Chaos Gods manifest in the material realm with dire consequences.
Alex
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/11 10:50:00
Subject: Lord of war: Avatar of tzeentch
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Disguised Speculo
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Man, that fluff is actually pretty cool Alex. Feel free to go make a not-Tzeench of your own to go with it...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/11 15:12:07
Subject: Lord of war: Avatar of tzeentch
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Courageous Space Marine Captain
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Holy hell, no. Read the rule Chaos God and died inside a little.
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