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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/11 20:06:56
Subject: Not who would win... but who is better designed?
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Hallowed Canoness
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Two warrior races, one designed by the hand of the God Emperor, the other shaped to survive on a hostile homeworld...
Which is better designed for war... Space Marines, or Krogan?
Which advantages over humans are superior, and which are simply unnecessary?
What do people think?
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"That time I only loaded the cannon with powder. Next time, I will fill it with jewels and diamonds and they will cut you to shrebbons!" - Nogbad the Bad. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/11 20:15:21
Subject: Not who would win... but who is better designed?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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The Imperial Guard. Would kick both of their asses!
But more seriously, probably the Space Marines, as from what I have seen, the Krogan, while incredibly tough and powerful, don't have the willpower of the Space Marines, to push on through bad injuries and to see victory through to the end despite cost.
Just an opinion though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/11 21:01:58
Subject: Not who would win... but who is better designed?
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Wing Commander
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Is exactly what the Krogan have the ability to do. During gameplay, once you take a Krogan's health down, he rapidly regenerates and gets up for round two.
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Homebrew Imperial Guard: 1222nd Etrurian Lancers (Winged); Special Air-Assault Brigade (SAAB)
Homebrew Chaos: The Black Suns; A Medrengard Militia (think Iron Warriors-centric Blood Pact/Sons of Sek) |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/11 22:31:48
Subject: Not who would win... but who is better designed?
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Hallowed Canoness
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Unit1126PLL wrote:The Imperial Guard. Would kick both of their asses!
But more seriously, probably the Space Marines, as from what I have seen, the Krogan, while incredibly tough and powerful, don't have the willpower of the Space Marines, to push on through bad injuries and to see victory through to the end despite cost.
Just an opinion though.
Well, that's one thing - the Marines have the faith to push through, but the Krogan have a whole redundant nervous system. When their body starts shutting down due to damage, they switch over to the backup nerves, which don't have the built-in limitations designed to protect the body from itself, and go all berserker-strengthy.
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"That time I only loaded the cannon with powder. Next time, I will fill it with jewels and diamonds and they will cut you to shrebbons!" - Nogbad the Bad. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/11 22:53:56
Subject: Not who would win... but who is better designed?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Wasn't the whole point of the Krogan genophage to stop them from breeding so damn much? Is that a factor?
Because without that limitation, theyd be about as numerous as orks. So I guess from a purely design standpoint, probably the Krogans are better because theyre on par with the physiology of a space marines, but theyre hyper-virile and crank out more Krogans like bunnies.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/11 22:55:44
Subject: Not who would win... but who is better designed?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Eldar are best warriors . Their power is maximum .
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/11 22:59:49
Subject: Not who would win... but who is better designed?
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Executing Exarch
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Design wise the krogan probably have a slight edge assuming the weapons and armour are equalized between the two groups. The krogan don't need "faith" or "will power" to push through wounds because they never even considered giving up from a wound and wounding one just makes it more angry (knock it down and kill it fast or he charges!).
The SM has a huge advantage in the fact that they understand war more. Krogan are brawlers with little tactics and don't have any real ability to adapt weapons to their purposes or invent new ones as compared to a SM (well at least as the fluff states, GW doesn't understand warfare principles very well so their writing often reflects poor understanding even in their characters).
Fun question.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/11 23:12:49
Subject: Not who would win... but who is better designed?
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Depraved Slaanesh Chaos Lord
Inside Yvraine
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Furyou Miko wrote:Two warrior races, one designed by the hand of the God Emperor, the other shaped to survive on a hostile homeworld...
Which is better designed for war... Space Marines, or Krogan?
Which advantages over humans are superior, and which are simply unnecessary?
What do people think?
Depends entirely on their feats.
What are the krogan's best durability fights?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/12 16:07:04
Subject: Not who would win... but who is better designed?
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Leader of the Sept
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Overall, assuming no genophage, Krogan win because they breed more quickly and canreplace more easily.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/12 16:24:02
Subject: Re:Not who would win... but who is better designed?
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Morphing Obliterator
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Do the krogan only have krogan tech, or mass effect tech in general? Because I see the carinfex (The handgun not the MC) as about as strong as a bolt pistol and the Cain being able to one shot a (scout!) titan. (Example ME3 taking down a titan sized AA turret with said one shot.)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/12 19:15:24
Subject: Re:Not who would win... but who is better designed?
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Tail-spinning Tomb Blade Pilot
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A female Krogan lays around 1,000 eggs per year. Given sufficient tech to mitigate environmental hazards (their homeworld is a fairly nasty deathworld) and no large scale infighting their population explodes to such a degree that inflicting a 99.9% infant mortality rate on them via the genophage resulted in a stable population despite the fragmentation of Krogan society into warring clans.
Out of armor Krogan forehead plates can stop small arms fire, they have cellular regeneration that is fast enough to be relevant during combat situations (one particularly notable specimen had regen so extreme that Garrus, a highly proficient marksman with a high powered sniper rifle and a backup assault rifle, both with specialized ammunition, couldn't pour down enough hurt on it to beat its regeneration), backup organ system and nervous system and sufficient physical strength to lift several tons and tackle armored vehicles. Krogan are natural survivers possessing humps that allow them to survive for long periods without food or water, can breathe normally in what most ME races consider highly toxic atmospheres and despite their insane rates of reproduction they seem to have no problem with securing a sustainable food supply and expanding their infrastructure and industry to match so long as they are allowed free reign to expand into new worlds when their existing holdings become overpopulated.
Also, IIRC, the Widow anti-material sniper rifle was stated to be "effective against armored vehicles and Krogans", which is quite telling.
Moreover, Krogans have a lifespan measured in many centuries, and they seem to have a non-trivial natural tendency for Biotics, referred to in Krogan culture as "Battlemasters".
thepowerfulwill wrote:Do the krogan only have krogan tech, or mass effect tech in general? Because I see the carinfex (The handgun not the MC) as about as strong as a bolt pistol and the Cain being able to one shot a (scout!) titan. (Example ME3 taking down a titan sized AA turret with said one shot.)
Dude, that thing wasn't the size of a scout titan, it was larger than an Imperator class titan...
The size can be a bit deceiving since it's hard to realize how far away the player is from the cannon, but it's based on the hull of a Reaper destroyer, which is 160m tall.
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It is apparently somewhat shorter than a regular Destroyer though, but stands as tall the the Big Ben, which is itself 96m tall.
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