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haloreach4ever wrote:Who else wants to make a team dakka on the pandemonium server or are you al to busy.

Laodamia wrote:I kinda wanted to give it a try. But I'm a bit busy ATM.

basically what laodamia said.
though if the server crashes or no-one's on, I might pop by occaisonally if a team does exist.
and when the manor's done, I might do it, again, if a team exists.
so basically it's a "I'll do it if others do it and I have nothing else to do"

johnscott10 wrote:

Battle Brother Lucifer wrote:Ive lost power from the hurricane in CT and am borrowing wifi atm

Whats all this talk of resetting the server?

Pretty much with the 1.8 update theres been rumours of error with pre-gened worlds, as the generation code has been reworked(I think). This could cause problems with the server which could leave massive gaping holes in the ground and such.

That and other issues which im not fully aware of. Somebody else can build upon what i have said.

It is almost a certainty that the first release of 1.8 will have major bugs, as 1.7 had major bugs and that was just a small update, 1.8 will be a massive update and Mojang are quite reliant on their massive playerbase to find the bugs for them. I won't upgrade the server to 1.8 till at least several patches have been released. This should hopefully avoid any "gaping holes" and other world breaking bugs.

mondo80 wrote:Their taking out the seed funtion, i think existing server will be ok.

I haven't heard anything about them removing the seed function, but I do know that with oceans, rivers, new biomes, villages etc the seed function will be vastly different, so any requests like "please use this seed in the new world" will be completely pointless as it will not be the same result.

When we are going to make the transition to 1.8 I will probably load up the world in an admin-only mode and head to some new chunks to see if it's ok. If there are no gaping holes or oceans flooding onto exisiting landscape etc, then we'll probably just keep the existing world as-is. If you want the new 1.8 stuff, just put a bed in the new chunks and use that as your spawn point. There's no point offsetting the whole world when you can just use beds to change your spawn point. I'm sure someone would happily make an express minecart track in the nether...

If (and ONLY IF) there are major compatibility issues with the new world generation code, THEN I will consider creating a new world and importing existing requested structures - but not whole sections of the map - I'll just cut off tunnels, roads etc, as they can be easily rebuilt. It may not even be that simple if the World Editing tools are not updated to work with 1.8....

However, as I have already said, it may be better to wait till November, as we don't know if they will continue to make more massive changes and new features (Notch came up with rivers and deep oceans in a matter of days). Wiping out the world for 1.8 may be premature if they bring in another major new feature in 1.9 or 1.10.

Of course Lego and Yak can overrule anything I have to say, so take it all as it comes. :-)

So, this battle area, are we building it at helms deep?

If we are, we may have a problem. Biccats Northen Base is right next door, and could be in the way.
Obviously, we can't move Biccats hemi-sphere, but we could move the battle area.

What do we think?

is it possible to change a worlds seed after its created so that new chunks get generated with it?

Grundz wrote:is it possible to change a worlds seed after its created so that new chunks get generated with it?

I don't think so.

Raptor:

I have an idea for the battle area in my castle as long as you guys aren't using TNT

I could have it up and running in a few hours if thats acceptable

//edit, actually TNT isnt a problem, how many blocks do we need inbetween teams?

RaptorsTallon wrote:So, this battle area, are we building it at helms deep?

If we are, we may have a problem. Biccats Northen Base is right next door, and could be in the way.
Obviously, we can't move Biccats hemi-sphere, but we could move the battle area.

What do we think?

Yeah, I should have mentioned that earlier. Since nothing had been built around the area I assumed the "helms deep" concept had died.

Grundz wrote:Raptor:

I have an idea for the battle area in my castle as long as you guys aren't using TNT

I could have it up and running in a few hours if thats acceptable

//edit, actually TNT isnt a problem, how many blocks do we need inbetween teams?

Um, maybe 300 blocks? Not exactly sure.
I was hoping to have trenches and bunkers for the attackers to use on the approach to the castle, and some form of 'flag' inside to be the objective.

Prehaps a flag pole in each base, with a wool block as the flag. The attackers would have to break the wool block and get it back to their base and put it on their pole.

Players would have thier spawn set at a specfic area in their base so they can respawn if they die.

I don't think we are using TNT unless anyone wants to.

This is my idea of the game.

Thats pretty much what I was thinking

-A small fort with simple interior (think TF 2fort) made of partly obsidian
-wool block wired to redstone for alert! repeating sounds when it is missing.
-Side room full of beds

-small supply donation area in the front for string/gravel/wood for weapons
-outer walls made of water
-floors made of grass or wood with water 1 block underneath and then ground again to cushion explosions
-some bunkers, lava moats, ect. for people to build and fight over inbetween

POSSIBLY inside a giant colloseum style arena with stands

Grundz wrote:Raptor:

I have an idea for the battle area in my castle as long as you guys aren't using TNT

I could have it up and running in a few hours if thats acceptable

//edit, actually TNT isnt a problem, how many blocks do we need inbetween teams?

RaptorsTallon wrote:

Grundz wrote:Raptor:

I have an idea for the battle area in my castle as long as you guys aren't using TNT

I could have it up and running in a few hours if thats acceptable

//edit, actually TNT isnt a problem, how many blocks do we need inbetween teams?

Um, maybe 300 blocks? Not exactly sure.
I was hoping to have trenches and bunkers for the attackers to use on the approach to the castle, and some form of 'flag' inside to be the objective.

Prehaps a flag pole in each base, with a wool block as the flag. The attackers would have to break the wool block and get it back to their base and put it on their pole.

Players would have thier spawn set at a specfic area in their base so they can respawn if they die.

I don't think we are using TNT unless anyone wants to.

This is my idea of the game.

Grundz wrote:Thats pretty much what I was thinking

-A small fort with simple interior (think TF 2fort) made of partly obsidian
-wool block wired to redstone for alert! repeating sounds when it is missing.
-Side room full of beds

-small supply donation area in the front for string/gravel/wood for weapons
-outer walls made of water
-floors made of grass or wood with water 1 block underneath and then ground again to cushion explosions
-some bunkers, lava moats, ect. for people to build and fight over inbetween

POSSIBLY inside a giant colloseum style arena with stands

I'll design and make the trench area and help with the attacking side's start base if I finish before that.
a "CTF" style thing could work, but I'd prefer what they have on madrealms (halo's server) and have something like glowstone to destroy. Maybe attackers have to steal a flint and steel and then go back and light a piece of netherrack on top of thier start position?

before we start building, however, I'd like to see how many people would participate in games, so we can scale the battlefield to fit. No point making a huge fortress if there aren't the people to defend it.

And its this kind of stuff that makes me wish i was still on the server.

"before we start building, however, I'd like to see how many people would participate in games, so we can scale the battlefield to fit. No point making a huge fortress if there aren't the people to defend it. "

This would require a fight schedule or something

I would like to build/help with the trenches and bunkers.


I would participate in the battles.

Copy this roster and add your name!

Willing Combatants:
Shrike
RaptorsTallon

RaptorsTallon wrote:I would like to build/help with the trenches and bunkers.


I would participate in the battles.

Copy this roster and add your name!

Willing Combatants:
Shrike
RaptorsTallon

BTW I was thinking, would it be better to move it out of the world, like way, way out, far from any residents so that we can do whatever, launch nukes, tunnel underground, ect without risk of disturbing people. Plus I can easily find places with epic landscapes and such.

I'm willing to fight too!

Okay, me, vinnie and raptors have started work. Not much yet, just a base with a bed, chest, furnace ect. but we have a location. it's around 2700x -2000z.

ill fight!

Nah nah nah! Hold up! You're thinking of this wrong! The primary goal is to create a designated area, spectator stands, etc. The rest of the 'inside' stuff, (excluding the main bases for the two teams) would not be there- you'd have to build those during the combat- combat engineers, if you will.

And don't use Obsidian for the main bases- you want sappers to have a chance too, right?

I say we have 2 small bases at the start and both teams have 20 mins and a chest of cobble to expand the base and make their weapons

Once I finish my new house out in the boonies and build transportation back to you guys I'b be more then interested. I could also make my own "speedball" arena, like capture the flag but in a small town with bows and arrows and traps and stuff. It could possibly be done by the time you guys build your way out here

It'd be even funnier to build a big floating battlefield at cloud height. Could set floor traps in unsuspecting places that cause people to fall hundreds of feet to their death

metallifan wrote:It'd be even funnier to build a big floating battlefield at cloud height. Could set floor traps in unsuspecting places that cause people to fall hundreds of feet to their death

Notch needs to introduce a gate that opens up, and a rancor.

Oh, and a flimsy cling film and tin foil control panel that's broken by throwing bones at it.

It's called a multi-piston door. You can make them up to 5x5, I hear. Pretty complex, but if you're building it that high, you don't need to worry much about space.

You can make gates that open sideways really easily, opening upwards is lots harder.

Nobody spotted the bit about the Rancor, then?

Avatar 720 wrote:Nobody spotted the bit about the Rancor, then?

You have me. I'll take a set of Diamond Armor and a Diamond Sword, and once one team unleashes me, I'll go kill anything in sight.

I prefer Iron Axes myself. Diamond's so flashy, and swords are overrated. Can't cut down a tree in half the time with a sword, now can you?


So, Mondo's been helping me at Mesa, now. If you didn't get this there, Mondo, (and I guess this goes for the rest of you too) if you're willing to help, you get to keep all the cobble you want, as well as any other resources you find in the stone (probably mostly coal and some iron), and you can take as much snow as you want, either from the chest or from outside. You'll need to do a small tree farm for wood, however. Do that on top of the hill or to the side, if you can.


And if anyone wants to volunteer, I need someone that can sculpt or build a giant snake head on a diagonal. I want it big enough that I can have lava dripping down the fangs, if possible.

Anvildude wrote:Nah nah nah! Hold up! You're thinking of this wrong! The primary goal is to create a designated area, spectator stands, etc. The rest of the 'inside' stuff, (excluding the main bases for the two teams) would not be there- you'd have to build those during the combat- combat engineers, if you will.

And don't use Obsidian for the main bases- you want sappers to have a chance too, right?

a spectator stand in which no-one-one will sit. It'd be a pointless waste of time and material.

Vulkan_He'stan wrote:I say we have 2 small bases at the start and both teams have 20 mins and a chest of cobble to expand the base and make their weapons

hmm.... that could work...

another vote?
-1 small base trying to get into castle and capturing F&S
-2 small bases with limited cobble and 20 minutes to expand.

I personally would prefer going up against a castle, but it's up to us all.
as long as I get a nice area to dig my trenchworks and punker emplacements I'm happy.

I'd sit in the spectator stand, or at least go around as a referee. Basically I can only use a bow and the lag makes that rather useless for pvp.

My vote goes for prebuilt bases with the option to contruct small obstacles like walls, not blocking doors. Works for either game mode.

I say:
Attackers = Small Camp
Defenders = Castle

Capture the Flag