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I'd prefer a war server, two teams each with a base 1000 blocks apart and a no mans land in between. When ever there are 4 or more people on we duke it out in the battle area or run capture the flag type missions.

YES!! I'd love to do that! No protections, no benefits to one side or the other. Wanna go tear down their wall? You can try, just as long as nobody catches you, and as long as you watch out for the lava and piston traps!

You wouldn't need a new server for that, just an area on this or an existing server. Just make sure it's clearly marked with warning signs :-)

Maybe not 1000 blocks away, more like 100, it would take up less room and make the battlefield closer. First we pick a spot on the server, mark it with fences then prepare the sites for the bases, battleground with trenches, some traps and a portal. Each base would need to have a list of team players and beds for spawn points. Free for all looting in the zone would be encouraged.

Could make a castle for it and a smaller outpost nearby. Teams rotate between attacker and defender. Defender getting the castle of course. Then have some "relic" (probably coloured wool) in the castle for the defenders to defend. Attackers need to rush in, grab it and place it back at the outpost.

Would likely save on space as well due to only needing one large structure.

I'm all for the idea however it turns out though. Perimeter with the fence needs a bunch of warning signs as well though. I'd probably help build a spectator stand for it as well.

n0t_u wrote:Could make a castle for it and a smaller outpost nearby. Teams rotate between attacker and defender. Defender getting the castle of course. Then have some "relic" (probably coloured wool) in the castle for the defenders to defend. Attackers need to rush in, grab it and place it back at the outpost.

Would likely save on space as well due to only needing one large structure.

I'm all for the idea however it turns out though. Perimeter with the fence needs a bunch of warning signs as well though. I'd probably help build a spectator stand for it as well.

This sounds like a fun idea.

You could do what my current server does and have 8 blocks of glowstone in a 2x2 block that the attackers have to destroy when all four are gone the attackers win and if the defenders hold out for the set amount of time they win.

@grundz did you sign up to join pandemonium to?

mondo80 wrote:I'd prefer a war server, two teams each with a base 1000 blocks apart and a no mans land in between. When ever there are 4 or more people on we duke it out in the battle area or run capture the flag type missions.

Anvildude wrote:YES!! I'd love to do that! No protections, no benefits to one side or the other. Wanna go tear down their wall? You can try, just as long as nobody catches you, and as long as you watch out for the lava and piston traps!

darkinnit wrote:You wouldn't need a new server for that, just an area on this or an existing server. Just make sure it's clearly marked with warning signs :-)

mondo80 wrote:Maybe not 1000 blocks away, more like 100, it would take up less room and make the battlefield closer. First we pick a spot on the server, mark it with fences then prepare the sites for the bases, battleground with trenches, some traps and a portal. Each base would need to have a list of team players and beds for spawn points. Free for all looting in the zone would be encouraged.

n0t_u wrote:Could make a castle for it and a smaller outpost nearby. Teams rotate between attacker and defender. Defender getting the castle of course. Then have some "relic" (probably coloured wool) in the castle for the defenders to defend. Attackers need to rush in, grab it and place it back at the outpost.

Would likely save on space as well due to only needing one large structure.

I'm all for the idea however it turns out though. Perimeter with the fence needs a bunch of warning signs as well though. I'd probably help build a spectator stand for it as well.

RaptorsTallon wrote:

n0t_u wrote:Could make a castle for it and a smaller outpost nearby. Teams rotate between attacker and defender. Defender getting the castle of course. Then have some "relic" (probably coloured wool) in the castle for the defenders to defend. Attackers need to rush in, grab it and place it back at the outpost.

Would likely save on space as well due to only needing one large structure.

I'm all for the idea however it turns out though. Perimeter with the fence needs a bunch of warning signs as well though. I'd probably help build a spectator stand for it as well.

This sounds like a fun idea.

guys, have none of you heard of the helm's deep castle defence I was gonna build?
I could start that up again, providing I have some help.
well, let's vote: castle vs small base or castle vs castle?
It'd have to be fairly small, though. I doubt we could get enough people to use two castles.

Castle VS Base.

And yes, I think restarting the helms deep project as the castle would be a great idea.

RaptorsTallon wrote:Castle VS Base.

And yes, I think restarting the helms deep project as the castle would be a great idea.

okay, I need lots of cobble and wood, (maybe 4 stacks of logs, and 10 of cobble?)

how big exactly would this version of helms deep be?
because i am beginning to wonder if 640 blocks of cobble stone will be enough...

Lord_Typhon wrote:how big exactly would this version of helms deep be?
because i am beginning to wonder if 640 blocks of cobble stone will be enough...

it depends if we extend it into the rock or not. 640 blocks might do it, I'll go see how wide it'll be now.

shrike wrote:guys, have none of you heard of the helm's deep castle defence I was gonna build?
I could start that up again, providing I have some help.
well, let's vote: castle vs small base or castle vs castle?
It'd have to be fairly small, though. I doubt we could get enough people to use two castles.

Yes and I was for the idea, it just seemed like the mannor happened instead.

n0t_u wrote:

shrike wrote:guys, have none of you heard of the helm's deep castle defence I was gonna build?
I could start that up again, providing I have some help.
well, let's vote: castle vs small base or castle vs castle?
It'd have to be fairly small, though. I doubt we could get enough people to use two castles.

Yes and I was for the idea, it just seemed like the mannor happened instead.

heh. Well, I've kinda taken a break from the manor for a week or so, and you going on about castle warfare reminded me of an old unfinished project.

I'd be okay with a server reset after the game goes gold and no longer is in beta.

I've got plenty of cobble from hollowing out the Mesa. I'll drop by the manor at around 7 Eastern time with it.

I agree with Mel. Once Minecraft has been fully released our server should be completely reset. Admittedly I haven't been on it long, and all I have to show for it is a small wooden shack on an island, but there *is* a lot of clutter on the server, and the only real way to deal with it is to start afresh. Besides, what better excuse for resetting than the release of the full version?

Just my 2 pence.

Anvildude wrote:I've got plenty of cobble from hollowing out the Mesa. I'll drop by the manor at around 7 Eastern time with it.

Ditto (well, not about the time, or dropping it off, or hollowing out a Mesa...)

Anyway, I've got 3 chests full of cobble if you want it. (mined through 2 diamond pickaxes and have only 1 diamond to show for it...not happy)

biccat wrote:

Anvildude wrote:I've got plenty of cobble from hollowing out the Mesa. I'll drop by the manor at around 7 Eastern time with it.

Ditto (well, not about the time, or dropping it off, or hollowing out a Mesa...)

Anyway, I've got 3 chests full of cobble if you want it. (mined through 2 diamond pickaxes and have only 1 diamond to show for it...not happy)

What level were you mining at to only find one diamond? And what sort of mining?

As far as I know, mining at level 9 with a tree root layout is the best way to find good stuff.


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Dastardly Dave wrote:I agree with Mel. Once Minecraft has been fully released our server should be completely reset. Admittedly I haven't been on it long, and all I have to show for it is a small wooden shack on an island, but there *is* a lot of clutter on the server, and the only real way to deal with it is to start afresh. Besides, what better excuse for resetting than the release of the full version?

Just my 2 pence.

If we do restart I woud insist, and I think alot of others would support me, that we copy some, if not all of the old world in. But we would off-set it so the spawn would be in the new bit.

RaptorsTallon wrote:

biccat wrote:

Anvildude wrote:I've got plenty of cobble from hollowing out the Mesa. I'll drop by the manor at around 7 Eastern time with it.

Ditto (well, not about the time, or dropping it off, or hollowing out a Mesa...)

Anyway, I've got 3 chests full of cobble if you want it. (mined through 2 diamond pickaxes and have only 1 diamond to show for it...not happy)

What level were you mining at to only find one diamond? And what sort of mining?

As far as I know, mining at level 9 with a tree root layout is the best way to find good stuff.

Top view (X = mined, O = not mined) (at level 13-15)
...
XOOOXOOOX
XOOOXOOOX
XOOOXOOOX
...

Side view:
XOOOXOOOX
XOOOXOOOX

I've found stuff in this mine previously (and have a good stock of diamonds to show for it), I'm just having a run of bad luck.

A tree root should look like:

XOOXOOXOOX
XOOXOOXOOX
XOOXOOXOOX
XOOXOOXOOX
XOOXOOXOOX

X=Mined
O= Not Mined

This allows you to see every block with minimum amount of blocks mined.

Who else wants to make a team dakka on the pandemonium server or are you al to busy.

I kinda wanted to give it a try. But I'm a bit busy ATM.

RaptorsTallon wrote:This allows you to see every block with minimum amount of blocks mined.

The problem with this system is that with the layout of blocks, you're overmining. Most ores appear in blocks of at least 2x2x2, even diamond (although it may be as few as 3 diamonds).

While the system I'm using only uncovers 50% (to your 75%) of blocks, because of the relative scarcity of blocks without ore-bearing neighbors, it's more efficient. Plus, if you wanted 100% coverage, you could move up or down to expose all of the blocks in a couple of layers:

OOOXOOOXOOO - 16
OOOXOOOXOOO - 15
OXOOOXOOOXO - 14
OXOOOXOOOXO - 13
OOOXOOOXOOO - 12
OOOXOOOXOOO - 11

This exposes all of the blocks in layers 13 & 14, and most of the blocks in 11, 12, 15, 16.

I use the following system. It's not as efficient, but it's less claustrophobic:


O = block X = mined block XOOXOOXXXXXXXX XOOXOOXXOOOOOO XOOXOOXXOOOOOO XOOXOOXXXXXXXX XOOXOOXXOOOOOO XOOXOXXXXOOOOO XXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXX OOOOOXXXXOXOOX OOOOOOXXOOXOOX XXXXXXXXOOXOOX OOOOOOXXOOXOOX OOOOOOXXOOXOOX XXXXXXXXOOXOOX

Essentially a windmill pattern. Central room has the ladder up as well as storage, and is 4x3x4. The main side passages are 2x3x∞, while the mining passags are 1x3x∞. Usually the ground is the block at height 11. It's also difficult to get lost in, as you know that heading in, all the mining passages are on one side, and a flat wall is on th other, and it's not very claustrophobic because the main passages are very open and even the mining passages are three high.

I used to mine following a tree root layout with 1 block wide tunnels to optimize the area covered with each block mined.

However, I realized that the most efficient way to cover a great amount of blocks was simply to explore natural caves. This method has some inconvenient however, such as not really controlling the depth or the distance of the mining (since you're just following the cave), and it is less efficient than the tree root layout for mining diamonds.

But I prefer this method because it is far less boring and produces a far larger amount of resources.

I just strip mine. 100 percent coverage. It just takes a while longer.

Ive lost power from the hurricane in CT and am borrowing wifi atm

Whats all this talk of resetting the server?

Battle Brother Lucifer wrote:Ive lost power from the hurricane in CT and am borrowing wifi atm

Whats all this talk of resetting the server?

Pretty much with the 1.8 update theres been rumours of error with pre-gened worlds, as the generation code has been reworked(I think). This could cause problems with the server which could leave massive gaping holes in the ground and such.

That and other issues which im not fully aware of. Somebody else can build upon what i have said.

Their taking out the seed funtion, i think existing server will be ok. By the way i finished the tunnel and base area of Netherreach, a base in the nether 950 blocks from bwine portal, i will open its portal on 1.8


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Just head to the mondonian station and follow the tracks