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I have had surprisingly good success with my first games with the new codex. But I think that part of that is my opponents being unprepared for the new units. I think thing will get harder as they learn to better deal with them. So I want to refine my list.

To make things simple I will use this key with my list:
** Means want to leave it in as is, could be fluff reasons or that I like the model or some other reason I am being stubborn.
* Means I want to leave the model type in but I am up for changing the amounts or upgrades
? Mean I am perfectly willing to drop the model.

Also I will put a not after each entry so you have idea of how I intend to use each unit.

HQ
Hive Tyrant: Wings, Poison, Bonesword, Lashwhip, Electro grubs**
I use my HT as a MC and warlord killer, though I would like to keep this model the same I am willing to drop the Electro grubs though I have found those to be worth it.

Elite
2x Zoanthroaps *
2x Zoanthroaps *
The Zoanthroaps are primarily for cheap durable synapse though the extra psychic powers and anti tank is a welcome edition.

Troop
20 Hormagaunts *
20 Hormagaunts *
20 Hormagaunts ?
20 Hormagaunts ?
I use the Hormagaunts to run too and hold objective, tar pit and each things that get blasted out of transports. I know I have a lot of them but I a worried about losing to many to hold objectives.

Fast Attack
Crone**
Crone**
I use Crones as my anti air and when the sky is clear they make good anti tank weapons

Heavy
Exocine?
Trygon Prime?
Trygon Prime*

The exocine has been a good artillery piece for me so far as it can hurt just about everything I am leaning toward keeping it but I am not sure if the points could not be better spent elsewhere or not. As for the Tyrgon Primes I would consider dropping one but it seems I have a hard time holding synapse together without them. Also they make decent tank killers when DS and shooting rear armor and shooting down AV 10 flyers. They also tend to draw fire which they absorb quite well.

That leaves 220 points if you don't change this list at all, or 830 if you drop the stuff I am not sold on.

I am open to any suggestions but the units I am really looking at are:

Venomthropes to add survivability to the MC on turn one
Hive Guard to up my AA and anti tank abilities
Gargoyles to work as a fast screen and to tie down MC and Warlord so my Tyrant can eat them.
Carnifexes but not sure whether a dakka fex for cheap CC fex is what my army needs.

Thanks for your help!