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Made in gb
Longtime Dakkanaut





So this weekend I have Caledonian tournament at North West gaming centre here in the UK, its the first big tournament of the season and is the Scottish ETC warm up/fund riser event. IT is a 5 game swiss style tourny with scoring system like the ETC. The event is 1850 with FW allowed but restrictions on the amount of interceptor units, 0-1 and no dataslates or escalation/stronghold either.

(IF voting please select where you think they will come, so select top 5 if you think there and not top 5 top 15 top half of table etc)
The missions we are playing are
Spoiler:

SCENARIO 1
ALPHA: CRUSADE
OMEGA: PURGE THE ALIEN
Deployment: DAWN OF WAR
SCENARIO 2
ALPHA: PURGE THE ALIEN
OMEGA: THE SCOURING
Deployment: VANGUARD STRIKES
SCENARIO 3
ALPHA: THE EMPEROR’S WILL & THE RELIC(S)* (Basically 3 relics!)
OMEGA: PURGE THE ALIEN
Deployment: HAMMER AND ANVIL
SCENARIO 4
ALPHA: THE SCOURING
OMEGA: PURGE THE ALIEN
Deployment: DAWN OF WAR
SCENARIO 5
ALPHA: PURGE THE ALIEN
OMEGA: BIG GUNS NEVER TIRE
Deployment: HAMMER AND ANVIL



It is a very tough scoring system to get full pts in! one thing I will struggle to do.

Full rules pack is here
https://www.dropbox.com/s/gvxylkqz6pszew5/CALEDONIAN%20UPRISING%202014%20RULES%20PACK%20v1.5.pdf


My list for this event has been influenced by my application for the England ETC team for this I will be taking Screamer Council....

Spoiler:
HQ1 : Fateweaver = [300pts]
HQ2 : Herald of Tzeentch 45pts, Mastery level 3 upgrade 50pts, Disc of Tzeentch 25pts,Exalted Reward 30pts = [150pts]
HQ3 Herald of Tzeentch 45pts, Mastery level 3 upgrade 50pts, Disc of Tzeentch 25pts,Exalted Reward 30pts = [150pts]
HQ4 : Herald of Tzeentch 45pts, Mastery level 3 upgrade 50pts, Disc of Tzeentch 25pts, lesser reward 10pts, locus of conjuration 25pts = [155pts]
HQ5 : Herald of Tzeentch 45pts, Mastery level 3 upgrade 50pts, Disc of Tzeentch 25pts, lesser reward 10pts,, lesser reward 10pts = [140pts]

Troop 1 : 10 Pink horrors, 1 extra 9pts = [99pts]
Troop 2 : 10 Pink horrors, 1 extra 9pts = [99pts]
Troop 3 : 10 Pink horrors, 1 extra 9pts = [99pts]
Troop 4 : 10 Pink horrors = [90pts]
Troop 5 : 10 Pink horrors = [90pts]


FA1: (8 )Screamers of Tzeentch 75pts, 5 extra at 25pts per model 125pts, = [200pts]
FA2: (8 )Screamers of Tzeentch 75pts, 5 extra at 25pts per model 125pts, = [200pts]

FORTIFICATION: Bastion = [75pts]
TOTAL [1847pts]


For those that are interested the full army lists are here

https://www.dropbox.com/s/pq5r6a62j0t092a/cally%20list%20doc%2014%20v1.pdf


First round draw will be up tomorrow at 12pm GMT so watch this space!.

Some history on me, currently 19th on rankings for the UK come 7th at 50 man NW GT, joint 3rd at battlefield brum 60 man tourny, fifth at GT heat 3 60 man tourny with the screamers in the past 4 months. Have played Screamers since June 2013.

40kGlobal AOA member, regular of Overlords podcast club and 4tk gaming store. Blogger @ http://sanguinesons.blogspot.co.uk/
06/2013: 1st at War of the Roses ETC warm up.
08/213: 3rd place double teams at 4tk
09/2013: 7th place, best daemon and non eldar/tau army at Northern Warlords GT
10/2013: 3rd/4th at Battlefield Birmingham
11/2013: 5th at GT heat 3
11/2013: 5th COG 2k at 4tk
01/2014: 34th at Caledonian
03/2014: 3rd GT Final 
   
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Wicked Canoptek Wraith




Good luck, I haven't seen a screamer council list like that before, how are you splitting the heralds up?

I was thinking of going to caldonian as well, but other commitments got in the way, I was going to bring a necron with CSM allies anti meta list. I've heard some big names are going this year, but you're clearly one of them with your past tournament track record.
   
Made in gb
Longtime Dakkanaut





Its going to be very match dependant, based on mission and opponent and first/second turn, board night fighting etc. Most of the time they will be in one of the screamer units so that has the 2++, the other screamer unit is there for redundancy and as its a harsh scoring system I have plumped for lots of troops and plan to drop the portal down early to get lots of other shooting but again will be match dependant, against low kill point armys I doubt I will be doing this.

Will be doing a first opponent anaylsis at some point today here

http://sanguinesons.blogspot.co.uk/


Automatically Appended Next Post:
So, first round draw is up!, I am playing this list, I have just been told he is a belgium ETC player!.

PRIMARY DETACHMENT: tau
HQ1 :Etherial (50) : warlord [50]
HQ2 : Commander (85) Iridium Battlesuit (25) ) Puretide Engram Neurochip(15)Command and control node
(15) multi-spectrum sensor suit(20) Vectored retro trusters(5)flamer (5)flamer(5)neurowed system
jammer(2) [177]

Elite1 : Riptide (180) Ion Accelerator (5) Twin-linked Fusion Blaster (-) Early Warning Override (5)= [190]
Elite2 : Riptide (180)Ion Accelerator (5) Twin-linked Fusion Blaster (-) Early Warning Override (5) = [190]
Elite 3 : Riptide (180) Ion Accelerator (5) Twin-linked Fusion Blaster (-) Early Warning Override (5) = [190]

Troop 1 :10 kroot(60)hounds(5)[65]
Troop 2 :10 kroot(60)hounds(5)[65]
Troop 3 : 10 kroot(60)[60]

HS1: 3x Broadsides (195) 3 Early Warning Overide(15) 3 Twin-linked Smart Missile System (-) 3 Twin-linked
High Yield Missile Pod(-)4 missle drones(48)[258]
HS2: 1x Sky ray missle defence gunship (115) twin-linked smart missle system(-)blacksun filter(1) [116]
HS3: 1x Sky ray missle defence gunship (115) twin-linked smart missle system(-)blacksun filter(1) [116]

ALLIED DETACHMENT: eldar
HQ1 : farseer (100) jetbike(15)rune armour(-)shuriken pistol(-)witchblade(-) ghosthelm(-) [115]

Troop 1 :3x windriders [51]
Troop 2 :3x windriders [51]

6 swooping hawks(96) [96]

2 vaul engines(60): shadow weaver(-) [60]
total [1850pts]

This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at 2014/01/14 13:09:46


40kGlobal AOA member, regular of Overlords podcast club and 4tk gaming store. Blogger @ http://sanguinesons.blogspot.co.uk/
06/2013: 1st at War of the Roses ETC warm up.
08/213: 3rd place double teams at 4tk
09/2013: 7th place, best daemon and non eldar/tau army at Northern Warlords GT
10/2013: 3rd/4th at Battlefield Birmingham
11/2013: 5th at GT heat 3
11/2013: 5th COG 2k at 4tk
01/2014: 34th at Caledonian
03/2014: 3rd GT Final 
   
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Ghastly Grave Guard



Uk

This interests me.
   
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OK

Interesting list. That second screamer unit could be very nasty. You could easily have a second forewarning caster to throw on it as well.



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Raging-on-the-Inside Blood Angel Sergeant





Luton, England

I'm liking the dual threat of the double screamers, a nice twist on the standard list.

First opponents list could have been easier but also I've seen alot nastier TauDar, the extra screamers should be helpful at putting down the Riptides and preventing your council from getting bogged down.

What kind of terrain density are you expecting at the event, lots of LOS blocking or a little sparse, I've never been to the venue.

Good luck

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Its more that the list resists being alpha struck as much as it normally would, it has done well in my one whole test game but theory wise it works so watch this space!.

I have asked about the terrain and been advised there is plently and good mix, it was the same terrain as the GT heat 3 which was very good terrain so it is sounding good!.

40kGlobal AOA member, regular of Overlords podcast club and 4tk gaming store. Blogger @ http://sanguinesons.blogspot.co.uk/
06/2013: 1st at War of the Roses ETC warm up.
08/213: 3rd place double teams at 4tk
09/2013: 7th place, best daemon and non eldar/tau army at Northern Warlords GT
10/2013: 3rd/4th at Battlefield Birmingham
11/2013: 5th at GT heat 3
11/2013: 5th COG 2k at 4tk
01/2014: 34th at Caledonian
03/2014: 3rd GT Final 
   
Made in us
Fixture of Dakka





San Jose, CA

Honestly, I'm a little skeptical about running a dual-screamerstar build. Actually, I'm normally skeptical about running any type of dual-deathstar builds (though mini-deathstars are ok). The problem will be the support units. That is one of the reasons why I didn't run dual paladinstar Draigowing builds back when the GK's were still dominant.

You will have problems against certain builds. One that comes to mind is Mechdar w/2-3 wraithknights. Your riptide Taudar opponent can also give you problems as well. His army is actually frighteningly good and very highly optimized.

In any case, good luck! I hope daemons will do well in a tournament that's probably going to be dominated by Tau and Eldar.



6th Edition Tournaments: Golden Throne GT 2012 - 1st .....Bay Area Open GT 2013 - Best Tyranids
ATC 2013 - Team Fluffy Bunnies - 1st .....LVO GT 2014 Team Tournament - Best Generals
7th Edition: 2015-16 ITC Best Grey Knights, 2015-16 ITC Best Tyranids
Jy2's 6th Edition Battle Report Thread - Links.....Jy2's 7th Edition Battle Report Thread - Links
 
   
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Longtime Dakkanaut





I am not using them as two deathstars Jim, one unit of screamers is purely ablative wounds, basically my turn 1 will be 2 heralds in a unit of 11 horrors (or maybe 10 depending on mission and deployment) with the grimoire and Tzeentch permitting, forewarning herald in each of the screamer units.

This gives 11 wounds before getting to the two other heralds and 16 (or 8 against str 8) wounds before getting to the two important heralds. Not much can do that in one turn, frankly I doubt anything can. My opponent can focus all of his fire on one of the units to take out that unit and herald if he wants but the riptide, he will be getting a few screamers at most with his large blast at str 8 then its down to my invul saves.

At NW GT I came 7th and faced in total 11 or slightly more wraithknights in 5 games, only one was left alive at the end of the game and that was on 2 wounds (damn 5++ shield thing!). I do not really fear Wraithknights as much as most screamer players do.


First match anaylsis up on the blog!

http://sanguinesons.blogspot.co.uk/2014/01/caledonian-2014-markymark-with-screamer.html

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/01/14 23:30:46


40kGlobal AOA member, regular of Overlords podcast club and 4tk gaming store. Blogger @ http://sanguinesons.blogspot.co.uk/
06/2013: 1st at War of the Roses ETC warm up.
08/213: 3rd place double teams at 4tk
09/2013: 7th place, best daemon and non eldar/tau army at Northern Warlords GT
10/2013: 3rd/4th at Battlefield Birmingham
11/2013: 5th at GT heat 3
11/2013: 5th COG 2k at 4tk
01/2014: 34th at Caledonian
03/2014: 3rd GT Final 
   
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Regular Dakkanaut




Wales,UK

Top 10 for me I think list is good and you are experienced if you can avoid really bad matches you should do well.

I think you beat this taudar list comfortably because all his troops are pretty much fodder and can't hold objectives well.
   
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Longtime Dakkanaut





I do think his scoring is weak, Kroot just die to a stiff breeze and hopefully I can get the drop on them. I need to do a certain few things in the first few turns to get on top Will be a interesting game.

Getting ready to leave and starting to get hyped about this, looking forward to a good weekend¬!

40kGlobal AOA member, regular of Overlords podcast club and 4tk gaming store. Blogger @ http://sanguinesons.blogspot.co.uk/
06/2013: 1st at War of the Roses ETC warm up.
08/213: 3rd place double teams at 4tk
09/2013: 7th place, best daemon and non eldar/tau army at Northern Warlords GT
10/2013: 3rd/4th at Battlefield Birmingham
11/2013: 5th at GT heat 3
11/2013: 5th COG 2k at 4tk
01/2014: 34th at Caledonian
03/2014: 3rd GT Final 
   
Made in gb
Longtime Dakkanaut





Currently passing out in car park due to terrible night sleep last night!, first game over and small win to me. List performed well even going second against that army and not much blos on board will ipdate aftrr next game uf and when I wake up!

40kGlobal AOA member, regular of Overlords podcast club and 4tk gaming store. Blogger @ http://sanguinesons.blogspot.co.uk/
06/2013: 1st at War of the Roses ETC warm up.
08/213: 3rd place double teams at 4tk
09/2013: 7th place, best daemon and non eldar/tau army at Northern Warlords GT
10/2013: 3rd/4th at Battlefield Birmingham
11/2013: 5th at GT heat 3
11/2013: 5th COG 2k at 4tk
01/2014: 34th at Caledonian
03/2014: 3rd GT Final 
   
Made in us
Fixture of Dakka





San Jose, CA

Good luck man. And congrats on game #1 already.




6th Edition Tournaments: Golden Throne GT 2012 - 1st .....Bay Area Open GT 2013 - Best Tyranids
ATC 2013 - Team Fluffy Bunnies - 1st .....LVO GT 2014 Team Tournament - Best Generals
7th Edition: 2015-16 ITC Best Grey Knights, 2015-16 ITC Best Tyranids
Jy2's 6th Edition Battle Report Thread - Links.....Jy2's 7th Edition Battle Report Thread - Links
 
   
Made in gb
Longtime Dakkanaut





Second game was a draw playing one of the guys we came up with looks like I will concede next game as really not feeling welk so wont be a good placing as I had planned for!

40kGlobal AOA member, regular of Overlords podcast club and 4tk gaming store. Blogger @ http://sanguinesons.blogspot.co.uk/
06/2013: 1st at War of the Roses ETC warm up.
08/213: 3rd place double teams at 4tk
09/2013: 7th place, best daemon and non eldar/tau army at Northern Warlords GT
10/2013: 3rd/4th at Battlefield Birmingham
11/2013: 5th at GT heat 3
11/2013: 5th COG 2k at 4tk
01/2014: 34th at Caledonian
03/2014: 3rd GT Final 
   
Made in gb
Longtime Dakkanaut





United Kingdom

Good luck with this Mark! Would be good to see you at Ruinstorm this year!

   
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Ok, event is now over of course and you have had a few spoilers above!.

I ended up on 3 wins a draw and a lose, sadly due to scoring system it only took me to 33rd place below people with a worse win loss record. This really was not helped by the fact I did not feel well at all on day 1 and being only 5 games. Will post up some reports later tonight.

40kGlobal AOA member, regular of Overlords podcast club and 4tk gaming store. Blogger @ http://sanguinesons.blogspot.co.uk/
06/2013: 1st at War of the Roses ETC warm up.
08/213: 3rd place double teams at 4tk
09/2013: 7th place, best daemon and non eldar/tau army at Northern Warlords GT
10/2013: 3rd/4th at Battlefield Birmingham
11/2013: 5th at GT heat 3
11/2013: 5th COG 2k at 4tk
01/2014: 34th at Caledonian
03/2014: 3rd GT Final 
   
 
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