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I thought it would be fun to try Abaddon and his badass chosen terminators out. I was also inspired by this excellent conversion that I'm probably going to do.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/488591.page

The idea is to create a super hard core which can all move around together and support eachother, kind of like a moving Refused flank. It's for friendly games, semi-competitive setting I should add. I will probably play in character and don't care at all about any home objectives and just try to kill as much as possible. Comments, suggestions?

PS. I like terminators and obliterators. DS.


Black Legion 1250

Abaddon
265

5 terminators
the Bringers of despair (+1 WS, BS)
3 combi meltas
reaper autocannon
power fist
chainfist
mark of khorne
VoTLW
271

10 CSM, ccw+bp
2 meltaguns, 1 combi-melta
mark of khorne
VoTLW
200

10 CSM, ccw+bp
+ bolter (sonic blaster count as)
2 plasma guns (blastmaster count as)
VoTLW
198

2 obliterators, mark of nurgle, VoTLW
158

2 obliterators, mark of nurgle, VoTLW
158

Total 1250

No comments at all?

My one issue with this is that Abaddon is quite expensive. He costs the same a tooled up Daemon prince. Is he worth it? Or just fun for fluffy games? Anyone with experience?

U did it right. Just because you take abaddon, it doesnt mean you have to take chosen squads.

One suggestion:

I assume if you are giving them Mark of Khorne, the idea is to get into close combat and punch people to death with overwhelming numbers of attacks, yes? If you're going that way, seems to me the Reaper Autocannon would be better off replaced with a Heavy Flamer. Plus, it gives you better protection against people who try and assault you instead to deny you your charge bonus, in the off chance there is anyone who'd try to do that. You've got the 3 combi-meltas too AND a chainfist AND Abaddon so I don't imagine you'll have too much of an issue with armor with that unit to where you'd need the Reaper.

Plus, heavy flamers are particularly great against any non-power armor army. Tau, you can roast a whole pathfinder squad, Eldar you can melt some Dire Avengers, etc.

Have you considered giving your Terminators Mark of Slaanesh and Icon of Despair?

I mean Abaddon with Feel no pain? Not bad!

Icon of Excess I think you mean squire

I agree with the Flamer over the Reaper. Flame on!

You have no air support, a heldrake is as good an option as any army could ever ask for.

You are correct Reptile. Thanks.

Thanks for the feedback everyone!

Filch wrote:U did it right. Just because you take abaddon, it doesnt mean you have to take chosen squads.

Thanks! I tried several iterations of the list, and while cool, chosen with VoTLW end up being very costly..

SRSFACE wrote:One suggestion:

I assume if you are giving them Mark of Khorne, the idea is to get into close combat and punch people to death with overwhelming numbers of attacks, yes? If you're going that way, seems to me the Reaper Autocannon would be better off replaced with a Heavy Flamer. Plus, it gives you better protection against people who try and assault you instead to deny you your charge bonus, in the off chance there is anyone who'd try to do that. You've got the 3 combi-meltas too AND a chainfist AND Abaddon so I don't imagine you'll have too much of an issue with armor with that unit to where you'd need the Reaper.

Plus, heavy flamers are particularly great against any non-power armor army. Tau, you can roast a whole pathfinder squad, Eldar you can melt some Dire Avengers, etc.

Very good point. My reasoning behind the reaper was that since they are on foot, the reaper will add some ranged anti-transport capacity. So I can pop the rhino to get at what's inside. Also, my opponents seem to run loooots of plasma armed squads inside transports, so being able to stop them before unloading and unleashing that AP2 on Abaddons squad would probably be key.

That said, the flamer would work rather well against a lot of armies, and also probably make me run them the first turn, instead of firing the reaper. Which potentially gets me into CC a turn earlier.. hmm. Worth thinking about and testing!

RSJake wrote:Have you considered giving your Terminators Mark of Slaanesh and Icon of Excess?

I mean Abaddon with Feel no pain? Not bad!

No I did not, that is a very mean idea!

I just thought MoK would give them a crazy number of attacks.

fartherthanfar wrote: You have no air support, a heldrake is as good an option as any army could ever ask for.

Yes, that is this list's definite weakness. I could swap a squad of Oblits and some wargear for a Drake.

One reason I did not is that I thought I'd make a semi-fluffy list instead of a super competitive one, and the other is that one of the few things that could really pee on Abaddons parade would be a Vindicator or similar, or perhaps a Riptide. So I thought doubling up on the Oblits would give me better chances of taking that out, as a Helldrake "just" adds even more anti-infantry. (And some anti-air as you say.)

I did an updated version of the orginal list, based on the MoS + Icon idea, to give Abaddon and his unit Feel no pain. It's just to evil not to try.

To get the points I acutally ended up removing the terminator heavy weapon altogher, instead of swapping the reaper for a heavy flamer. That feels pretty good though, as a template weapon seems a waste of BS5 (in the case of the bringers of despair which I wanted to field), but mostly because I want them in CC and a HF might actually kill enough closest models so I fail the charge..


Abaddon and the Harbringers of despair v2- Black Legion 1250

Abaddon
265

5 terminators
the Bringers of despair (WS5, BS5)
3 combi meltas
chainfist
mark of slaanesh
icon of excess
VoTLW
289

10 CSM, ccw+bp
2 meltaguns, 1 combi-melta
mark of khorne
VoTLW
200

10 CSM, boltguns (sonic blaster count as)
2 plasma guns (blastmaster count as)
VoTLW
180

2 obliterators, mark of nurgle, VoTLW
158

2 obliterators, mark of nurgle, VoTLW
158

1250