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It's legal to put an Herald on a CSM squad with a mark of another god? It could be good something like:

Herald Of nurgle+Fecundity Locus(I think thats the name, Feel No Pain one) + Space Marine chosen with flamers, or Mutilators with a chaos lord MoT.

Herald of Slanesh(Wtih the +5I locus)+Bersekers with a lord, again. MoK

Herald of tzeench (With locus S1d6 rolled everey turn)+Cultis/Zombies

There is no reference on the locus rules saying "only daemons" or something like that. And the other rule on dameons codex(dnt know the name again, ¿daemonic loyalty?) is only restricted to another daemons, not "god units".

CSM and daemons are battle brothers, so, you can mix them all?

Deamon of ... restricts you to join other Deamons of the same god, doesn't it? A chaos marine worshiping Tzeentch isn't a Deamon of Tzeentch.

Edit: It might be under Daemonic Instability (the rule that makes you lose wound when you lose combat) because I recall the restriction being something like Can only join units with Daemonic instability...

 B0B MaRlEy wrote:
Deamon of ... restricts you to join other Deamons of the same god, doesn't it? A chaos marine worshiping Tzeentch isn't a Deamon of Tzeentch.

Edit: It might be under Daemonic Instability (the rule that makes you lose wound when you lose combat) because I recall the restriction being something like Can only join units with Daemonic instability...

ei, you are rigth. too good to be true

Daemonic Instability prevents models without the rule joining the unit.

Daemonic Alignment restricts a model to only joining a unit with the same alignment.

So Daemonic Instability prevents CSM IC's joining Daemons, and Daemonic Alignment prevents Daemon IC's joining CSMs.

Chrysis wrote:
Daemonic Instability prevents models without the rule joining the unit.

Daemonic Alignment restricts a model to only joining a unit with the same alignment.

So Daemonic Instability prevents CSM IC's joining Daemons, and Daemonic Alignment prevents Daemon IC's joining CSMs.

Some Chaos Space Marines are daemons.

 Necrosis wrote:

Chrysis wrote:
Daemonic Instability prevents models without the rule joining the unit.

Daemonic Alignment restricts a model to only joining a unit with the same alignment.

So Daemonic Instability prevents CSM IC's joining Daemons, and Daemonic Alignment prevents Daemon IC's joining CSMs.

Some Chaos Space Marines are daemons.

But the only CSM units with a Daemonic Alignment are the Daemon Princes, which are neither IC's nor units that can consist of more than one model. So they're irrelevant.

 Necrosis wrote:

Chrysis wrote:
Daemonic Instability prevents models without the rule joining the unit.

Daemonic Alignment restricts a model to only joining a unit with the same alignment.

So Daemonic Instability prevents CSM IC's joining Daemons, and Daemonic Alignment prevents Daemon IC's joining CSMs.

Some Chaos Space Marines are daemons.

But a Daemon with a particular mark is not the same as a 'Daemon of (insert relevant God) ' as found in the Daemon Codex.

Yup we are the only codex with Battle Brothers that can't be joined with their battle brothers, you see the irony?

Like having a Khorne Herald in a Zerker Squad would be has OP or worse then Taumander & Jetbike counsil...

A chaos character can never join a daemons unit (none of the chaos ICs are daemons).

But a daemon IC can in fact join a squad of CSM daemons like obliterators, mutilators, warp talons, or possessed (in fact ONLY those units).

Thing is, using daemon allies one will only be able to get a single herald, so the CD army has to be the primary. It takes some doing, and aside from oblits, all the daemon infantry units from CSM are terrible.

Nope spellbound, re read demonic instability.

No CSM can join demons, and no demon can join CSM.

Even if CSM has units with the demon USR, they are not a "demon of nurgle", they are a demon with a mark of nurgle. 2 completely different things.

Wasn't there something with the Blood Throne though where friendlies within 6" benefit from the Loci? Don't have the book out right now. That would be the only thing I could think of maybe working, not sure if I'd ever actually want to use Blood Throne Heralds, though they look cool...those Khorne Loci aren't all that awesome though. Prescience from a Tzeentch Herald/Lord of Change is better than the Fury or Wrath ones anyway.

 Lord Krungharr wrote:
Wasn't there something with the Blood Throne though where friendlies within 6" benefit from the Loci?

nope, just daemons of khorne so won't help allied CSM (except for the daemon prince)

I find it completely ironic the ONE single arming pairing in the game that "Battle Brothers" makes sense is currently one that has basically no benefits for doing so

Yup.

But then when you point that out, people says " Heldrake!!eurgahahaha!!!"...

I find it completely ironic the ONE single arming pairing in the game that "Battle Brothers" makes sense is currently one that has basically no benefits for doing so

? What about Eldar + DE makes perfect sense. The imperium are all 1 army so that too makes perfect sense (which is the majority of BB covered). OK Tau BB with lots of stuff is a little weird and OP at the moment.

Yes it would be nice to see CSMs and daemons mixing characters. But I can see why it would cause a lot of rules issue particularly for daemonic instability. I would like to see followers of Nurgle/ Khorne etc to cone back so that guys with marks can benefit from rules effecting Daemons of X and vice versa but Epidemus ruined that for all of us at the start of 6th Ed...

At least the psychic Blessings from Daemons (who certainly are very powerful psykers) will work on CSMs. That's usually worth it. And the firesupport of CSMs helps out the Daemons who run or fly to the battlefront.

It works out well most of the time.

 FlingitNow wrote:

I find it completely ironic the ONE single arming pairing in the game that "Battle Brothers" makes sense is currently one that has basically no benefits for doing so

? What about Eldar + DE makes perfect sense. The imperium are all 1 army so that too makes perfect sense (which is the majority of BB covered). OK Tau BB with lots of stuff is a little weird and OP at the moment.

Yes it would be nice to see CSMs and daemons mixing characters. But I can see why it would cause a lot of rules issue particularly for daemonic instability. I would like to see followers of Nurgle/ Khorne etc to cone back so that guys with marks can benefit from rules effecting Daemons of X and vice versa but Epidemus ruined that for all of us at the start of 6th Ed...

What issue?, the Deamons in the unit takes wounds due to the instability, the CSm character does'nt care...

But hey ONE SM give a Whole Platton of Guards ATSKNF, makes much more sens...

You'll pretty much get slapped in the face if you tell me a daemon with a mark of khorne isn't a daemon of khorne and so on for the other gods, and then I'll go play someone else.

Yes, the C:CD characters can join the daemonic units in the CSM codex as long as they're from the same god, but none of the other units.

 Spellbound wrote:
You'll pretty much get slapped in the face if you tell me a daemon with a mark of khorne isn't a daemon of khorne and so on for the other gods, and then I'll go play someone else.

Look at this tough guy. Good riddance. I'd rather play someone who can follow clearcut rules.

You'll pretty much get slapped in the face if you tell me a daemon with a mark of khorne isn't a daemon of khorne and so on for the other gods, and then I'll go play someone else

So you would slap someone in the face if they didn't allow you to just add furious charge and hatred (daemons of slaanesh) to your Mark of Khorne daemons?

To be fair, while a slap in the face may be excessive, I have no issues with throwing RAW out the window when it does not make sense... Like here.

But for those who prefer strict RAW, it's clear here.