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Edit: new list below to help others see if im getting any better =P
helping a friend put together his first tourny list. we could use some orky insit

warboss mega armor and cybork
10 nobs painboy
battle wagon with 2 shootas

15 lootas
15 kommandos with 2 burnas
15 kommandos with 2 burnas

30 gretchin with 3 runtherds
30 gretchin with 3 runtherds

9 warbikes

3 Killa kans with rockit lunchas
3 Killa kans with rockit lunchas

not quite at 1850 we have about 50 points to play with. we have plenty of boys and grots. no more battle wagons. one looted wagon. could make flash gitz. a few more nobs. no mega nobs. several burna boys. no tankbustas. no storm boys or buggies. no more bikes. no deffkoptas. no deff dreds. and no big guns

Thanks for any suggests and help

This list will get destroyed at any tourny. Killa Kans are paper weights now. Kommandos might actually be worse than killa kans. maybe if you can put what unit he has we can help make a list he would enjoy playing and not get stomped

The list is really lacking in the troops department. Any objective based game and this army will struggle to control the needed objectives. You need more troops to control and contest objectives.

Unfortunately Kommandos struggle with lack of numbers and armor and don't perform terribly well in a competitive environment. Maybe swap at least one mob out for something else.

How experienced is your mate with Orks and how many more boys has he got? I may get some flak but have you considered a greentide? Just lay out HEAPS of boys with the idea of swarming the enemy? It frustrates people to know end (which I find amusing) but can be a real drag if the tournament is timed at all.

He is not very experienced. he has a lot probably 60 or 70 boys. i play eldar and outflanking units work great for me i just kinda assumed the same went for orks. wouldn't be that hard to change em to just normal boys. he is hoping to get 15 more lootas before the tourny.

i was under the general impression green tide did poorly these days. have you had different experiences??

Outflanking works great for you because your outflankers can come in and shoot to full effect, while our melee outflankers can only come in and stand about looking stupid.

This is a really rubbish list for tournies. Orks don't like tournies in general, but your mate will make a beeline for the bottom of the table with this.

Easy tourney lists for Orks;
~Green Tide; crapload (100+) of shoota boyz, KFF Mek, Kannons and Lootas and Grot Bomms
~Battlewagon Rush; battlewagon loads of boyz, some grots to hold objectives, lootas and manz, kff mek

How experienced is your mate with Orks

You had to ask?

whats a grot bomm??

How experienced is your mate with Orks
You had to ask?

I was trying to soften the blow, rather than the sledgehammer a lot of people use up front of "your list is trash"

Green tide is effective (or about as effective as Orks currently get) with 100+ (yes it needs to be HEAPS) with Big Meks with KFF for added protection. Lootas are pretty much accepted as auto includes as well. So if he plans on getting more then that is a good start.

BigMek KFF, Boss Pole, Eavy Armour 95
BigMek KFF, Eavy Armour 90
Lootas x 15 225
Lootas x 15 225
Lootas x 15 225
Gretchin x 10 Rutherd 40
Boyz x 19 Nob, Power Claw 149
Boyz x 19 Nob, Power Claw 149
Boyz x 29 Nob, Power Claw 209
Battlewagon, Deff Rolla, Big Shoota 115
Battlewagon, Deff Rolla, Big Shoota 115
Battlewagon, Deff Rolla, Big Shoota 115
Aegis Quad 100

My 1850 list i normally would run, give you mobility mass amount of models. And best of all up to 139 Str7 Ap4 shots a turn lol. This list was really good up until tau came out now its sorta hit and miss(Riptides are nasty little things).

Orks without Boyz is not Orks! Get you some!

Here's my 1750 list: I think I'd beat you. Reconsider the commandos and the Grots.

LVOrks (Orks)
HQ - 220
Warboss (115)
shoota; mega armour; cybork body; bosspole.

Big Mek (105)
kustom force field; cybork body; bosspole; 'eavy armour.

Elites - 450
10 Burna Boyz (150)

10 Lootas (150)

10 Lootas (150)

Troops - 545
20 Ork Boyz (165)
Nob (power klaw; 'eavy armour; bosspole); shootas.

20 Ork Boyz (165)
Nob (power klaw; 'eavy armour; bosspole); shootas.

3 Big Boss's Meganobz (215)
• Battlewagon: big shoota.

Fast Attack - 120
Dakkajet (120)
twin-linked supa shoota.

Heavy Support - 325
Battlewagon (95)
big shoota.

Battlewagon (115)
big shoota; deff rolla.

Battlewagon (115)
big shoota; deff rolla.

Detachment: Fortifications
Other - 100
Aegis Defence Lines (100)
gun emplacement with quad-gun.

1,760 points


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Oh and I got tabled 3/5 times with Green Tide at the Golden Throne. It was really no fun to play too. Boring.

the OP said 1850

 Nettik189 wrote:
the OP said 1850

That's my point.

i know i forgot to mention a few lacking models but i reread and i defiantly mentioned no more battle wagons.

so how about a suggestion that doesn't involve 4 battle wagons as he doesn't wanna go buy them atm.

Can you post what he has so we can help better?

I'll admit that I don't play against a huge range of armies, but I've had better luck with Big Meks than Warbosses in the last few years, which a while back would seem like sacrilege.

I like two of them with Shokk Attack Guns
Each one attached to a loota boyz mob
2 x 20 shoota ladz
Also like Meganobz in a trukk ( I know that a lot folks don't)
Also like Stormboyz
'Ard boyz too

But I'm not conventional.

Lootas are very important as are shoota boyz mobs.

ok new attempt. Any better?

Warboss
Mega armor
attack squig
cybork

loota x15
2 meks
2 big shoota
loota x15
2 meks
2 big shoota
No more Lootas. Are the big shootas worth it for the extra shots??

Nobz x10
Painboy
Have lots of AORB nobs. one or two power claws

Boys x30
shootas
big Shoota x3
Plenty of boys

Gretchin x19
runtherd
Gretchin x19
runtherd
Plenty of gretchin

Warbikes x5
Nob
Claw
Warbikes x6
Nob
Big Choppa
All the bikes he has and models as they are. Could make them one squad of nob bikers with a warboss on bike?

DakkaJet
Suppa Shoota
Flyboy
His new toy. =P only one

Battlewagon
Big Shootax2
Red Paint
Only one loaded as model

Deff dred
DCCWx2
only one as modeled

Killa Kans x3
rokkit x3
3 more

for an 1850 tourny. have 50 points to spare atm.
what he doesnt have.
No
Big guns
mega nobs
FA slot options

Some
Burna boys
Mek with Shokk
warboss
Nobs

Any new suggestions??
as always thanks for the help and advice

Better, but still not great.

Generally in this game, you take a 'theme' and run with it. For instance, one battlewagon is a waste, but basing your whole army around them with a wagon rush can work

To make a good list, I suggest that the first thing you do is get all of your boyz and put them in it. Then report back

i cant do that he keeps buying more boys =P

i was think the battle wagon with nobs and warboss would make a good spear tip lead.

this is also his first tourny so he really wants to try a little of everything