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Hi all,

Griffon's can re-roll scatter. Rulebook says when re-rolling scatter you pick up all the dice and roll 'em again. Simple. Does the re-roll still apply in batteries though for subsequent shots?

For example, I have 2 Griffons. The first one shoots, scatters wide, so I re-roll it and get a HIT. All normal. Then I roll for the second blast and get an arrow. Can I re-roll that scatter die in the hope of getting a better arrow or even a HIT so the placement is better?


Second question: If I have direct LOS to a target that's within my minimum range, can I fire at it?

First, Griffon's owner may re-roll the Scatter die, so I'd say you can (I'm afraid the English version has it the scatter DICE, meaning the arrow die with the 2D6 , GW's French translation team's level is dropping)

Second question : You'd have to shoot indirectly, wether you have LOS or not. You'd scatter the full distance ,without substracting your BS

Rules for Barrage are in the 40k RB, pg 34, top left.

The first bullet says that they can fire indirectly, not that they must. If you fire in a way such that you must fire indirectly, you may not subtract your BS from scatter. Dangerous to shoot something close to you.

Griffons don't grant the re-roll ability to other tanks, so other tanks can't reroll. If the Griffon is the closest member of the battery, it fires first [pg 34, Multiple Barrages] and it can reroll the scatter [hoping to land on your target] and then remaining members shoot. If you'd like to Twin-Link every member of an Artillery Battery, I'd suggest allying a Librarian with access to Divination.

The Griffon gives you a better chance to have your initial blast land on target. Keep in mind, that the Griffon has one of the shortest ranges of the Artillery Batteries, and that Medusa are not Barrage tanks.

Bob; DICE can be singular as well as plural, as well as Die being singular. Because English is stupid.

Dice is generally used as plural, but can also be used as a catch-all in the singular when you are not talking about a particular die


HBMC: for your second question; all barrage shots within min range are indirect, even with LOS, but are totally possible in 6th; first bullet point is no LOS and/or within min range.

 greatbigtree wrote:
Griffons don't grant the re-roll ability to other tanks, so other tanks can't reroll.

Yeah I know that. The battery has 2 Griffons.

I can't see why not. There's no stipulation about not being able to re-roll in the multiple barrage rules, and wording that allows you to do so in the Griffon rules. You should be good to go.

As for min range, that just means to have to indirect fire regardless of LOS, you can still fire but not subtract BS.

My apologies, missed the two Griffons thing.

Sure, the second griffon can reroll it's scatter "die".

Scatter "Dice" is still appropriate; It means any and all dice rolled for scatter(in this case 1).

Thanks guys. I re-rolled the second one, and not a single person I played against objected to me doing it. Some even said "you should re-roll that" when I got a bad second scatter.

And the Griffons were the MVP's of all three games. They did so much damage - I even sniped a Spirit Seer with one!