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I know some people (including other tournaments that are allowing FW stuff) were interested in getting their hands on an updated Forgeworld Imperial Armor unit listing that Adepticon puts out each year, and here is the first draft of them:

http://www.adepticon.org/14rules/201440Kapproved.pdf
http://www.adepticon.org/14rules/201440KLoWapproved.pdf


These are basically just a listing of all the Imperial Armor units out there that have 'current' rules available, and what publication the most current rules for that unit reside in. We got rid of the page # column this year (sadly) because of digital downloads, that's kind of a confusing and/or moot point in many cases.

They are split up by 'standard' 40k units in one doc and those units traditionally associated with Apocalypse (aka Lords of War) in the other doc.


If you spot anything that looks like a mistake, or see a unit that you know has current rules but doesn't seem to be represented, please feel free to post about it here!


Thanks.

Thanks, yakface!

I'm on the waiting list for the doubles tournament. Good information to have.

I'm a bit confused as to why Chaos can take Reaver Titans but the Imperials can't.

Wasn't the Avenger Strike Fighter updated in IA12:Fall of Orpheus? The Imperial Navy Squadron had updated stats for the Avenger, Lightning and Thunderbolt I think.

@Valkyrie - Oops .. previous years we excluded models with a certain number of hull points. ( reavers, phantoms, etc ) We had these marked for review.

Thanks for point that out and we will get that updated.

@Shandara - You are correct that there is an Imperial Navy Squadron listing in IA12 but it is specfic to the Death Korps of Krieg Assault Brigade Army list. I have not compared the listings, but as a guide we tend to ignore Army List specfic entries for this listing. Sometimes, an Army List specfic listing will call out that it can be taken as part of other forces. For example in IA:12 you have the listing for the Night Shroud Bomber as part of the Dark Harvest Army list. The entry also states: A Night Shoud Bomber may also be chosen as part of a standard Necron army. when chosen as part of a Codex Necrons army, it is a Heavy Support choice and is treated as though it was chosen from that codex. In those cases we will include them.

 Shandara wrote:
Wasn't the Avenger Strike Fighter updated in IA12:Fall of Orpheus? The Imperial Navy Squadron had updated stats for the Avenger, Lightning and Thunderbolt I think.

Only in the Kreig Assault Brigade army list. Unlike some of the Necron entries in the Dar Harvest list which say they can be used in standard Necron armies, the Imperial Navy Squadron doesn't say that.

This list is for general (non-IA army list) armies.

Thanks for all the hard work on this yakface, muwhe, and whoever else you have helping on it behind the scenes! It is like a lighthouse to all of us lost in the current sea of rules madness

Edit: See here for a gem of a thread illustrating what I'm talking about . Make sure to skim the whole page to get the full effect!
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/576772.page

 Shandara wrote:
Wasn't the Avenger Strike Fighter updated in IA12:Fall of Orpheus? The Imperial Navy Squadron had updated stats for the Avenger, Lightning and Thunderbolt I think.

It's just a copy/paste of the previous rules, and grouping them into a single army list entry only applies to the assault brigade army list.

These are excellent resources... job very well done!

I love the Exterminatus format btw.

Why is the Chaos Fire Raptor not listed as an available unit?

 Peregrine wrote:

 Shandara wrote:
Wasn't the Avenger Strike Fighter updated in IA12:Fall of Orpheus? The Imperial Navy Squadron had updated stats for the Avenger, Lightning and Thunderbolt I think.

It's just a copy/paste of the previous rules, and grouping them into a single army list entry only applies to the assault brigade army list.

The Avenger gained a HP in the book, that's what I mentioned it.

 quickfuze wrote:
Why is the Chaos Fire Raptor not listed as an available unit?

Which book are the rules for that unit in?

 Shandara wrote:

 Peregrine wrote:

 Shandara wrote:
Wasn't the Avenger Strike Fighter updated in IA12:Fall of Orpheus? The Imperial Navy Squadron had updated stats for the Avenger, Lightning and Thunderbolt I think.

It's just a copy/paste of the previous rules, and grouping them into a single army list entry only applies to the assault brigade army list.

The Avenger gained a HP in the book, that's what I mentioned it.

That was a confirmed typo, not a rule change. The HP for the Avenger and Thunderbolt were swapped accidentally.

 yakface wrote:

 quickfuze wrote:
Why is the Chaos Fire Raptor not listed as an available unit?

Which book are the rules for that unit in?

Not sure, I just know it has the same PDF rules on FW as the other Raptors, except that it can take Reaper autocannons

What of the IA Vol I Manticore variant? Is that one not-friendly?(or is it the same as the aeronautica one...I don't have aeronautica)

Why is the Chaos Fire Raptor not listed as an available unit?

Chaos is listed as an option on the experimental rule pdf. Current Fire Raptor rules are printed in IA2: 2nd Edition. As this is a new model this is the first time these rules have been in print and they do not list Chaos Space Marines as an option.

What of the IA Vol I Manticore variant? Is that one not-friendly?(or is it the same as the aeronautica one...I don't have aeronautica)

In this case we opted to stick with the Aeronautica option for the listing.

 xole wrote:
What of the IA Vol I Manticore variant? Is that one not-friendly?(or is it the same as the aeronautica one...I don't have aeronautica)

To expand a little bit on that decision...the Manticore listing in IA1 (2nd ed) has basically two variant weapons: The AA missiles and missiles that use the super-large (7", I think?) blast.

This makes the manticore the ONLY unit in the game that can use the super-large blast in non-Escalation games, and the decision was made that this didn't seem appropriate for non-escalation events where people aren't used to seeing or dealing with the larger blast types.

So we just left the AA version from Aeronautica in as an option for those that want it, but left the 'big' blast version out completely...because frankly the regular missiles are plenty good on their own.

Forgive me, but I found another thread like the one I linked to above. I can't imagine playing with these units in an event that didn't put out a resource like this... thank you again for making this navigable for the rest of us!!

Both Big Mek Buzzgob and Zhadsnark 'Da Rippa have been updated in the new Dread Mob list will the PDF be updated to include this.

Yes. An update is incoming in the couple of days along with the FAQ doc. 8-10 or so additions and corrections.


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Both documents were updated this afternoon.

http://www.adepticon.org/14rules/201440Kapproved.pdf
http://www.adepticon.org/14rules/201440KLoWapproved.pdf

So how many out of the 40K championships decided to switch over to the exterminatus event?

Thanks for doing this, Yak and Co. I was going to do it myself for our events, glad you all beat me to it!

What was the thinking behind removing the kustom stompa?

 MeanGreenStompa wrote:
What was the thinking behind removing the kustom stompa?

That was a tough choice to make, but here's the reason why:

It was initially included on the list because FW had put it on their list of allowed Lords of War in the PDF they put up on their site. However, as I actually started working on the FAQ for the FW stuff (which will be coming out very soon, BTW) it became apparent really quickly that the rules for the Kustom Stompa's gear is fundamentally and totally different from the way the Stompas in Apocalypse/Escalation behave. So if you allow the Kustom Stompa to be taken, you have this situation where you have the same model, using many of the same weapons (by name), but that behaves incredibly different form one another.

Not only that, but our FAQ would still have to be quite a few bullet points long just explaining how some of those older rules would work (or explaining that you need to go use the rules for a certain weapon from the Apocalypse book, etc).

However, the final nail in the coffin was the update for the Ork Dread Mob army list PDF that FW put up on their site. They bothered to update a few units in there that aren't even technically in the Dread Mob army, but they did NOT update the Kustom Stompa rules. More than that, at the end of that PDF, they have a new list of Ork Lords of War (for both regular Codex Orks armies and the Dread Mob army) and the Kustom Stompa is *not* listed as something allowed anymore.

So ultimately it seemed like the right decision to make, just to keep things simple and clear for everyone involved, even if it does remove the only remotely worthwhile Stompa from the mix.

 yakface wrote:

However, the final nail in the coffin was the update for the Ork Dread Mob army list PDF that FW put up on their site. They bothered to update a few units in there that aren't even technically in the Dread Mob army, but they did NOT update the Kustom Stompa rules. More than that, at the end of that PDF, they have a new list of Ork Lords of War (for both regular Codex Orks armies and the Dread Mob army) and the Kustom Stompa is *not* listed as something allowed anymore.

So ultimately it seemed like the right decision to make, just to keep things simple and clear for everyone involved, even if it does remove the only remotely worthwhile Stompa from the mix.

I don't know about 'nail in coffin', it reads more like they 'forgot to add it'... And you're right, it is the only remotely worthwhile Stompa, for an army that's certainly in the doldrums of this edition and eager for it's codex to show up. Even sisters of battle can take a titan... I'd have left it in just to give orks a break.

But you are correct, it would have proven somewhat confusing unless you FAQ'd some of the weaponry choices. I have no horse in the race, not being able to attend this year (next year, next year...) but feel like I'd have thrown ork players a bone by clarifying the rules for the Kustom Stompa and letting them take it. It's DIY nature is particularly appealing to me as an ork player and it's better by a country mile than the overly expensive and poorly performing regular stompas.