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I had a wonder if it was possible to build eldar to out-shoot tau. It started as just a question, would it be possible at all to make a playable serious list out of 30 Dark Reapers? All with Starshot? And if you HAD to how would you play it?

The best way I can think of is 30 dark reapers inc exarchs with all the toys, Maugan Ra with 5 Harlequins inc seer inc jester, 3 squads of 6 Swooping Hawks, baharoth, and as many Wave Serpents as you can carry (assume squads if 3 jet bikes for the troups)

everything but the bikes start on the table but hidden in the terrain. If there isn't some LOS blocking terrain I am not sure you could even do this.

eldar turn 1 fly high with the hawks and move out of cover with reapers and shoot something to death. the only question is how many squads need to give it everything but usually I would suspect one-two squad of shooting (cetainly) will pretty much anhiliate anything. Maugan ra moves with his squad to rearmiddle and hops about using the veil so protect him from couter shots he can shot 5 times a go out ranging the harlies.. so can the jester.. but to no return fire if outside 24 inch - 3 of the harlies are just wounds...

turn 2 eldar hawks arrive and grenade with 4 pies on any infantry and saturate concentrated fire on vehicles (haywire) or lasgun (if infantry)

my question is: would this work?

3 Such squads are 1200 points. Add Serpents for them and that's >1500 points for just those 3 squads. Too much for 30 MEQ models. But in really large games, I guess it could work.


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Daemons would own you hard, though.

You mean other than the 6 Wave Serpents with Scatter Lasers putting out 42-72 Twinlinked Str6/7 shots a turn for 720pts?

Even with giving each a squad of Dire Avengers (which are relatively shooty anyway), that's still less than 1200pts.

Also that would be a terrible list vs tau, as both riptides, broadsides, and the buffmander have 2+ armor, effectively rendering the dark reapers useless.
Agaisnt other races they will just kill the 30 t3 models you have and then just mop up the rest.

ConanMan wrote:
I had a wonder if it was possible to build eldar to out-shoot tau. It started as just a question, would it be possible at all to make a playable serious list out of 30 Dark Reapers? All with Starshot? And if you HAD to how would you play it?

The best way I can think of is 30 dark reapers inc exarchs with all the toys, Maugan Ra with 5 Harlequins inc seer inc jester, 3 squads of 6 Swooping Hawks, baharoth, and as many Wave Serpents as you can carry (assume squads if 3 jet bikes for the troups)

everything but the bikes start on the table but hidden in the terrain. If there isn't some LOS blocking terrain I am not sure you could even do this.

eldar turn 1 fly high with the hawks and move out of cover with reapers and shoot something to death. the only question is how many squads need to give it everything but usually I would suspect one-two squad of shooting (cetainly) will pretty much anhiliate anything. Maugan ra moves with his squad to rearmiddle and hops about using the veil so protect him from couter shots he can shot 5 times a go out ranging the harlies.. so can the jester.. but to no return fire if outside 24 inch - 3 of the harlies are just wounds...

turn 2 eldar hawks arrive and grenade with 4 pies on any infantry and saturate concentrated fire on vehicles (haywire) or lasgun (if infantry)

my question is: would this work?

Are you playing/planning a point limit?

Drop the starshot ( waste of points you don't need units of Anti Air)

Drop the numbers down ( spam is at best a cheap tactic and at worst a absurdly concept based force) this one leans towards the latter

Reapers are by no means bad but their power lies in killing marines/ bikes/ and light vehicles or horde (if you fast shot eml or tempest respectively, both in eml case)

Now trying to outshoot tau with 30 Pts models... Is going to end up.... Poorly, they either pack 2+ armor (tides will erase your reapers with marker lights), hordes of inexpensive outflankers that will jump them, or 3-1 fire warriors to reapers not counting suits or w.e Else have you

Want to grasp the Reaper think like an Eldar, what role does he have in the dance of death, don't make him what he's not or you will be disappointed