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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/06 07:06:14
Subject: Statistics Help
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Fixture of Dakka
Kamloops, BC
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I'm having trouble with a statistics question I did a hypothetical scatter plot of marijuana use and other drug use and came out with a correlation coefficient of 0.94, so there's a strong correlation with the data but for the second part it asks does the data confirm that marijuana is a "gateway
drug"? And I've so far answered that correlation doesn't necessarily mean causation, but I need to come up with an example of a third variable that could be effecting the results do you guys have any suggestions for a third variable that could be effecting the data?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/06 07:16:57
Subject: Statistics Help
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Dwarf High King with New Book of Grudges
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Alcohol use.
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Life does not cease to be funny when people die any more than it ceases to be serious when people laugh. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/06 07:36:51
Subject: Statistics Help
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Secret Force Behind the Rise of the Tau
USA
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Tobacco could also work.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/06 08:03:56
Subject: Statistics Help
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Dwarf High King with New Book of Grudges
United States
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If alcohol, tobacco, or both are excluded from the data you're using, you could also argue that their exclusion has artificially skewed the data.
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Life does not cease to be funny when people die any more than it ceases to be serious when people laugh. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/06 08:18:13
Subject: Statistics Help
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[MOD]
Not as Good as a Minion
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Or SES
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I wish I had time for all the game systems I own, let alone want to own... |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/06 09:05:46
Subject: Statistics Help
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Cheesecat wrote:I'm having trouble with a statistics question I did a hypothetical scatter plot of marijuana use and other drug use and came out with a correlation coefficient of 0.94, so there's a strong correlation with the data but for the second part it asks does the data confirm that marijuana is a "gateway
drug"? And I've so far answered that correlation doesn't necessarily mean causation, but I need to come up with an example of a third variable that could be effecting the results do you guys have any suggestions for a third variable that could be effecting the data?
Do you have longitudinal data? If you have any kind of data concerning time...such as age of first marijuana use, you would be able to correlate age of first use with drug use later in life.
This is all very vague without seeing your dataset. Post up what variables you have available in your dataset if you want a serious response.
If not, you would use ANCOVA to analyze the covariance attributable to other variables of interest.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/06 15:18:21
Subject: Re:Statistics Help
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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Alcohol is a great third variable. Just make sure its not already included in your "other drug use" variable. It is technically a drug so your data source may or may not have it in that category.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/07 02:07:38
Subject: Statistics Help
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Even without another variable, correlation does not imply causation...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/07 02:23:57
Subject: Statistics Help
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[MOD]
Not as Good as a Minion
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I thought he was just asking us for variables that could partially explain the relationship he found, not additional variables that would magically make it a causal relationship
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I wish I had time for all the game systems I own, let alone want to own... |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/07 06:49:22
Subject: Re:Statistics Help
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Kid_Kyoto
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Prescription drug abuse, assuming you can find data for it.
I can't vouch for anywhere else, but everyone I know knows at least one person (no, not me) that habitually abuses Vicodin. That's anecdote, I realize, but probably worth researching, and cheap enough to be prolific. Automatically Appended Next Post: motyak wrote:I thought he was just asking us for variables that could partially explain the relationship he found, not additional variables that would magically make it a causal relationship
Without knowing more details, it's hard to say. Arguably, a common use of drugs only shows a common use of drugs, not that pot is a gateway, anyway.
Also, it depends on if he's doing science, or trying to make a case for something.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/07 08:21:07
Subject: Statistics Help
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I'm going to take a wild stab in the dark and guess that, from Cheesecat's ever so subtle avatar, he is trying to make a case for something.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/07 08:50:09
Subject: Statistics Help
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[MOD]
Not as Good as a Minion
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Corpsesarefun wrote:I'm going to take a wild stab in the dark and guess that, from Cheesecat's ever so subtle avatar, he is trying to make a case for something.
Possibly. If so, the answer is still SES. It's almost always SES. SES is a golden answer for simple stats in regards to anything remotely illegal. And not simple as in simple slopes, those annoying things, simple like basic.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/07 16:12:03
Subject: Statistics Help
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Kid_Kyoto
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Corpsesarefun wrote:I'm going to take a wild stab in the dark and guess that, from Cheesecat's ever so subtle avatar, he is trying to make a case for something.
That's why I extended the possibility of the option.
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