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Which is the better choice?
LRC with melta is 30pts more for about the same load out. But you get better armor. There are other differencs too like the stormraven has to hover to be an assault transport thus loosing its flyer status and the the AV12 doesn't seem so good. What else?

This is such a loaded question. Please specify what you want to do.

please edit your thread title to stormravens.

As for which is better, you forgot, in addition, that the Land Raider has +1 Hull Point. That can make all the difference.

And the Stormraven has to change to hover mode if it wants to disembark troops that then want to assault, meaning it is toast next turn, OR they will have to emergency drop and pass dangerous terrain tests.

Finally, a troop transported into battle by the LRC can usually assault on turn 2, while a troop in a Stormraven wont be able to assault till turn 3.


That being said, things that work in the Stormraven's favor is that it is cheaper, has more deadly armament, and can be used to hunt enemy flyers and FMCs without you needing to take something else that can in your armylist.

I'd say land raiders, for lots of little reasons: they have twin-linked lascannons instead of melta, they start the game on the board, they aren't vulnerable to interceptor or skyfire, they can clear ground with tank shocking, etc. etc. etc.

The one big reason is because the land raider is one of the most awesome looking models you can field and a stormraven is a flying dumpster.

Tactically, I'd probably make more mistakes with a stormraven because I'd be so distracted by how ugly it looks.

For killing purposes - Stormraven

For delivering units into assault - Land Raider

The Stormraven is easier to take down and if it's carrying a unit at the time well they're toast as well. It might seem like Zoom makes up for 2 points less armor but there's a lot of AA out there and the thing screams 'SHOT ME!' at S7+ ranged attacks and in most cases everything on the board will have LOS on it. That LOS works both ways though and coupled with its mobility it makes it better at the killing part. I also has a problem delivering units into assault. You can hover and drop them off in which case you will also likely not have a Stormraven on your next turn. -OR- You can attempt to drop them while zooming but if you mishap they are just dead, no roll, just gone... and if you plan on having the unit assault you'll need to drop them close to an enemy unit which, oddly enough, increases your risk for a mishap. There's also the fact that you may not see the thing until turn 4. That would mean both the Stormraven and the embarked nit may not to anything for two thirds of the battle.

The Land Raider is much harder to pen and does not threaten the entire board at once. This makes it a less likely target even for units that can potentially hurt it in favor of better odds of doing damage elsewhere. It screams 'SHOOT SOMETHING ELSE!' to anything less than S9 (SRs aside) and even if it does explode you've got armor saves to minimize any losses to the embarked unit. It also starts on the board and is not dependent on reserve rolls. As a more dependable unit it more reliably delivers units where they need to go, when they need to get there and with far less risk.

My 2 cents.

Crusader or Redeemer?

Well, u've forgot the main use of a landraider. It's not just a delivery system. It's a solid moving blos. If you field a landraider - you can more easilly hide things like bikers or even use assault marines with great effect! U can hide rhinos behind it also. So if u're up for an advancing force not heavy on droppods - the landraider is gona be way better.

The reason I chose LRC is because it has the closest loadout to the SR but the price is about the same for any LR. My main question was as a delivery system but also just all around.

Another advantage of the raven is that it is far better at getting rear and side armour shots. Also more likely to get into melta range. With a raider you need anothe source of AA whilst with a raven you need a comms relay or other reserve manipulation.