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So I have been thinking and the artiliary etc have all basic munitions just ranging from different blast templates. Now this is my first time talking about my ideas so please bare with me. What if the weapons could fire different types of munitions. For ecample: in a night fighting scenario, a basilisk could fire a flare type munition at any point on the field so long as it is in range. The position of the flare coule be marked with a simple marker and anything with in a lets say 15 inch radious would be uneffected by the night fighting rule. Or an air burst munition which like the normal blast template would be placed over a area and the direction dice and d6 are rolled. This blast template would not have a hole in the middle and would be signifigantly larger than the current blast template used by the earth shaker. It would be less powerfull than an ordinary shot and not be effective against armoured opponents like termies etc. These muntions could be used across the bored by tanks and HW crews so long as it uses a conventional type of muntions and not laser based. To stop them being op the player would have to select the muntion type at the start of his shooting phase.

Obviously the flare munition would only really be usefull in a large scale game where the full range of the earth shaker can be employed. The air burst could be designed to be really effective against very lightly armoured opponents such as traitor guard and could cut down huge swathes of those effective conscripts. The rules will need refinement by the more experienced guys but what do you guys think of my idea?

i had a thread like this months ago, except with grenade launchers and mortars too. i think it would be great!

I should have probably searched just to see if this idea had already been done but I was too lazy and thought I was amazing for coming up with the idea it would definitely make it feel a bit more realistic and would not be terribly hard to implement. it would make some units a bit more potent on the field

It will also add more to the game besides choosing what to kill as well, its now how you kill them, or shall i benifit another unit and so on. Just adds a bit more to it.

And my thread was just wishlisting, things like airbursting, flare rounds, bunker busters, napalm, smoke and so on.

Yeah I know what you mean. It would make thr game a lot more tactical and strategic. Although I reckon there should be something to nerf it becuse a fully equipped leman russ can be pretty potent on its own think of the destructive power of it with multiple types of munitions! Think of rolling in a couple of russes against a nid player, who will already be pretty cheesed off about the nerfed codex, to find that the russes can whipe out half their army in a single phase of shooting by picking different munitions for the multitude of weapos they have. It would be brilliant for us guard players but not so much for the other players

could add a danger value on other rounds, like the better rounds might glance your tank on a 5+ or jam your gun for a turn if you fail the special munitions roll. Because the special ammo could be rare and unpredictable?

Better yet think of a bane blade rolling in. Firing two different types of shells from its main gun and the demolisher! You know what who cares if its op id just love to see the look of some peopls faces


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Yeah I see. So a napam round or something might inadvertently explode inside the tank or something?

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Better yet think of a bane blade rolling in. Firing two different types of shells from its main gun and the demolisher! You know what who cares if its op id just love to see the look of some peopls faces


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Yeah I see. So a napam round or something might inadvertently explode inside the tank or something?

Exactly, then it makes you decide if its worth the shot...

Hmm only if GW would allow people to submit their own rules ideas and they could maybe implement them in the next edition with a shout out to the submitter, topic for another thread though

If only lol... Oine day

But yea its a great idea I think

I actually believe IA:1 2nd edition has rules like this for a number of the IG artillery pieces. Don't have my copy in front of me so I'm not sure exactly what those rules are though

Alienvalentine is referring to the special ammunition for some Leman Russes in the Armoured Battlegroup list; there are four of them and they're a little underpriced.


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I implemented something like this for mortars in my Stormtrooper Regiment rules; as for general restrictions I'd suggest requiring one special ammunition type to be used across the entire platoon/vehicle squadron to reduce confusion, restrict the number of different ammunition types a given unit can have, and force the vehicle to shell out for a veteran loader or take penalties for switching ammo types.