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Me and my friend are entering a warhammer doubles tournament coming up, and were wondering what people would think of our list. Rules state 1000pt each, and regular force allowance chart for each 1000 pt list

WOC segment- 999

LORDS
Chaos Sorcerer Lord-240
Ironcurse icon
(Joining warriors)
HEROES
Exalted hero- 153
BSB , Shield, dragonbane gem. Chalice of chaos
(Joining warriors)

CORE
18 chaos warriors-336
MoT, shields, FC

Warhounds-30
5 hounds
Warhounds-30
5 hounds

RARE
Hellcannon-210

Chaos dwarf segment-997
HEROES-203
Daemonsmith-135
dispel scroll, enchanted shield, Luckstone. pistol

Hobgoblin khan-68
Giant wolf, light armour, Dragon helm, spear

CORE-404
10 infernal guard-202
Hellglaives, FC
10 infernal guard-202
Hellglaives, FC

SPECIAL-390
Magma cannon-145
Magma cannon-145
Death shrieker-100

What lore for your magic user?

I think hellglaives are way overcosted. You lose your shield and it's almost a 50% increase in cost. That will let you get more than 10 in those blocks. About a whole other rank, actually.

 DukeRustfield wrote:
I think hellglaives are way overcosted. You lose your shield and it's almost a 50% increase in cost. That will let you get more than 10 in those blocks. About a whole other rank, actually.

IIRC theres a currently un FAQ'ed dispute over whether or not I actually lose the shield. I cant use it in combat of course but against ranged I still benefit. (right?) dont remember exactly

It says it right in the book that fireglaive requires 2h. Unless they are wearing the shield on their head they don't get it. Even if they got it it's stupid expensive. 5pts on a 12pt model.

Woc warriors are 3pts on a 14pt model for a halberd. And while the halberd doesn't shoot, it's pretty similar. Especially considering you will only ever get a few wounds from them shooting at the most. The range is simply too short and their BS too sucky.

They are a pretty solid unit. WS4, 4/4 with 3+/6+ (and better vs. fire) save at 12pts. You want more of them instead of trying to make them better. They are already a decent deal. They are basically Ironbreakers with -1WS -1pt cost and a ward vs. fire. Dwarf characters will say it's a bad deal but I say it's solid.

CD were created just before 8th edition when prices were still high. Fireglaives and Blunderbusses are insanely expensive.

No Im trying to say the glaive doesnt replace the shield. I cant use it in cc as the glaive is 2 handed, but I still get a defense from shooting.
And ill talk to my friend about cheapening the warriors, thanks!

Paying 5 pts to be +1 armor against shooting on a CC character is about the worst deal you could ever make.

If this is the GW doubles tournament I don't think you can take chaos dwarves they are forgeworld.

BAN wrote:
If this is the GW doubles tournament I don't think you can take chaos dwarves they are forgeworld.

Check the warriors code. Notes that documents produced by games workshop, and specifically notes forgeworld are allowed.

cool i didn't know that

I've used Fireglaives the S5 attracted me but they are not close to worth it trust me.

I'd advise taking 2 K'Daai Destroyers (1 each) it is the best way for WoC and CDwarves at this level. Literally start with a K'Daai Destroyer each and work from there.

Chaos Lord choices aren't really worth it at 1k. In doubles perhaps if your partner is covering your weaknesses (taking a scroll caddy and bringing the bodies).