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Hey peeps, long time Lictor, first time Screamer Killer here. Been in and out of 40k, and will be playing my 'Nids against Ultra-smurfs soon, and just wanted some clarification on some of the 6th ed rules.

1. Assuming a non-fearless Space Marine unit fails a pinning test, when does the unit regroup? At the end of the immediate turn? At the start of their turn? At the end of their turn? I'm just a little confused with how pinning works with ATSKNF.

2. Assuming Calgar is leading these said Smurfs, and can decide to voluntarily fall back from assault, can a Sweeping Advance test still made to keep them locked in combat?

3. If several gargoyles choose to exchange their attacks for blinding venom and those attacks hit, are blind tests made for each of the successful blinding venom hits, or just one for the unit?

Cheers,

MightyWeasel

1. ATSKNF has no effect on pinning. The unit will be able to operate normally, as per the rules for pinning.
2. If they fall back, they can be swept. If swept they stay in combat, per ATSKNF.
3. Not sure, don't have codex on hand. Pretty sure it is one test per hit.

Thanks for the reply Happy,

Think I was just confusing the rules for Synapse Fearless (where the unit automatically recovers from pinning), with the auto regroup rules in ATSKNF.

Cheers,

MightyWeasel

Blind is done based on hits so yes, many gargoyles equals many hits!

 MightyWeasel wrote:
Hey peeps, long time Lictor, first time Screamer Killer here. Been in and out of 40k, and will be playing my 'Nids against Ultra-smurfs soon, and just wanted some clarification on some of the 6th ed rules.

1. Assuming a non-fearless Space Marine unit fails a pinning test, when does the unit regroup? At the end of the immediate turn? At the start of their turn? At the end of their turn? I'm just a little confused with how pinning works with ATSKNF.

2. Assuming Calgar is leading these said Smurfs, and can decide to voluntarily fall back from assault, can a Sweeping Advance test still made to keep them locked in combat?

3. If several gargoyles choose to exchange their attacks for blinding venom and those attacks hit, are blind tests made for each of the successful blinding venom hits, or just one for the unit?

Cheers,

MightyWeasel

1) Pinning does not cause a regroup check so the unit can't regroup. The unit will act normally after the end of the player's next turn. It clearly says that in the pinning rules.

2) Yes, as long as the unit doing the sweeping can conduct a sweeping attack.

3) Don't have my BRB in front of me but the attacks are USR Blind so just look it up. If you don't have a BRB then go buy one. Get the paperback one off of ebay for $20.

The blind rule is somewhat vague as to how many tests, or tests per hit from unit to unit. Since most tests are spelled out d3 d6 or x number and other rules like pinning you take a test using one stat for the whole unit one time, no matter how many troopers died from pinning wounds.

Tough call

Blind is pretty clear RAW. The intent may be a little more unclear. Each model may trade in their attacks to blind. Blind USR says that for "each hit from a model or weapon with Blind" you make a test. Therefore, each Gargoyle that Blind's forces a test because separate models are hitting with their blinding venom.

Thanks for the replies. Pretty much cleared up everything for me.

Cheers,

MightyWeasel