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Annoyed Blood Angel Devastator




Hi all
With some friend we just started a campaign and i'm playing a lot of matches. However, i see several problem during the game but i really dunno if the problem is the list(s), or my "(un)strategic" use of them

the list i'm using so far is an almost classical razorspam: 4x razorback, 2x fragioso on pod, 2x baal and mephiston. (for more details, click on spoiler)
Spoiler:

HQ
Mephiston
Elite
Furioso Dreadnaught w/ frag cannon, blood fist + hvy flamer, drop-pod
Furioso Dreadnaught w/ frag cannon, blood fist + hvy flamer, drop-pod
Troops
5x ASM w/ meltagun on razorback w/ las/plas
5x ASM w/ meltagun on razorback w/ las/plas
5x ASM w/ meltagun on razorback w/ las/plas
5x ASM w/ meltagun on razorback w/ las/plas
5x ASM w/ flamer, 2x hand flamer on drop-pod
5x scout w/ sniper and camo cloak
Fast
Baal Predator w/ flamestorm + hvy bolter
Baal Predator w/ flamestorm + hvy bolter

Total: 1750 points

list is not fixed, so i sometime did some little changes based on adversaries (ie swapping heavy flamer for meltagun and magna grapple for fragioso against heavy mech lists) and rules for planetary empires (more points for less territories occupied)

The list start pretty well: scout baal go forward and quickly attack, fragioso drop on front line, razorback create a wall and use las and plas to hunt down some big things. Mephiston scares almost everything he's looking at, including riptides, wraithknights and carnifex...
But, after a couple of turns tanks are gone and marines are on foot; they arrange to capture/hold objectives but die pretty quickly. Mephiston usually annihilate everything he manage to assault on first turn, then die while all enemy's unit shoot at him (no complain, he just do his job). On the last turns, i can't hold the line, i can't keep alive my marines, my army just... wither... ;_;

since campaign started i played 3 match so far: 2 lost (tau, nids), 1 draw (eldar)
against tau i was annihilated at the end of 4th turn; against nids game ended at end of 5th turn, i had just one asm squad on board (with 2 or 3 marines fighting a mawlock) and he had 60-70% of his army. Against eldar i had an handful of asm (3 or 4 in 3 squad) and he had all his waveserpent and 50% of troops (i did manage to draw the game based on first blood and warlord killed...)

so, my question is...
There is the problem with the list? where?
or it's just me that does something awfully wrong (like choose wrong target to shoot at, not using right cover, drop-pod on wrong places or using for instance)

how can i tweak the list to be more competitive?

[i got also 10x bike + 1x attack bike, 3x sanguinary priest, 10 more asm (with magnetized jump pack), 10x death company, 5x devastators, 10x tactical, 1x chaplain, some hq (including Dante, Corbulo, OOP rogue trader Tycho, 1x libby, 2x or 3x captain, sergeants, etc), 5x terminator, 5x sanguinary guard... plus most of my friend has a small or large MEQ detachment so i can borrow troops and rhino/razorback/predator quite easily; i got also a papercraft stormraven and 3x papercraft land raider.
i can try some different combination if there is the need...]


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This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at 2014/02/16 00:27:24


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My first question is the baal predators and dreads. Are you keeping them relativity close to each other? If you can get them close to each other they can focus fire troops the vehicles if you have too. I used to spread troops and vehicles all over the place. Well no good came of it.

Second I know some people are Razorback fan. It does have a purpose, but will not hold up. Tau shot you down and Nids mass swarm. I am still a fan of JP. Your assault sqaud has to assault. 5 man assault squad alone will not make it. I have used 10 man tactical. They have been useful. Not really BA still but useful. Also LR could help.

Good luck.

 
   
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Raging-on-the-Inside Blood Angel Sergeant




Texas

That looks really good!

4000+ Points
Tau: 1500ish



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