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So, what IS forgeworld? I get they make 40k models, I assume under GWs premision, but they look so drastically different from anything citadel makes that looking at them you wouldnt even think they where the same army (Particularly the nids).

These dudes are a subdivision of GW side projects and they mainly focus on apocalypse sized stuff like titans etc. big bucks and even their upgrades in my opinion aren't justified but they are still popular and even eBay is expensive on any forge world product.

As kerikhaos said, it's the part of GW that handles resin models and bigger stuff like Titans and other superheavies.

I might buy one of the cheaper models of Ebay for display purposes when my painting skill justifys it.


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Also, they get my respect for even doing any DE sets. They're the ones I figured would never get any new kits from any body.

Yeah they make add ons to 40k and horus heresy models, also titans and super heavy's which are extremely expensive...

FW started off just doing Imperial Guard superheavies, their first models were the Baneblade, Shadow Sword and some really really cool scenery.

From there they have expanded with some very nice campagin books and lots of awesome models. Each of my armies have forge world parts, be it conversions, super heavies or infantry.

It's the "boutique" arm of the 40k Models. They also support Warhammer Fantasy with their Warhammer Forge line.

These are the high end of the model range from GW and they are primarily focusing right now on the Horus Heresy line of 30k models.

Forge World also put out books which detail various campaigns. There are three lines of these books but as far as the 40k universe is concerned you are only interested in the "Imperial Armour" line and the "Horus Heresy" line (if you are interested in the 30k time period).

You can expect to pay a premium for the books and models from Forge World, but you will be hard pressed to find anything that looks better. (IMHO)

Also they sell nice add on pieces (which is how I initially got into FW) such as Rhino and Land Raider doors as well as brass etch with specific chapter, legion symbols on them.

They are the Porshe to the VW of GW. They make extremely detailed and incredible models, vastly expand the universe with their books, and their stuff tends to be very distinctive.

It is all resin and the prices are actually very comparable to GWs resin and metal kits. They are incomparable to plastic, though funny enough they are cheaper per model than dire avengers.

Their special weapons are actually a bit cheaper than GW and much cooler looking.

They are ultimately for 2 types of people. The type who is in a place where they want something different than vanilla codex and the modeler who wants the best models they can get even if expensive. The books are even gorgeous with great art and high production quality.

Come on, the first result on Google for "Forge World" has the Games Workshop dictionary entry and logo on the right hand side, and the bottom of every single page on the FW site has the GW logo and copyrights on it.

I have to ask though, does anybody else think Forge World is kind of a pain in the butt to assemble compared to standard GW models? I'm not a great modeler by any stretch, but it seems like there's quite a bit more prep work that goes in and some of the pieces are a lot fiddlier (I'm looking at you XV9 elbows...).

Also I am not a model expert when it comes to comparing companies, but I think both GW standard and Forge World models are pretty incredible from a detail and quality standpoint.

 dementedwombat wrote:
I have to ask though, does anybody else think Forge World is kind of a pain in the butt to assemble compared to standard GW models? I'm not a great modeler by any stretch, but it seems like there's quite a bit more prep work that goes in and some of the pieces are a lot fiddlier (I'm looking at you XV9 elbows...).

Also I am not a model expert when it comes to comparing companies, but I think both GW standard and Forge World models are pretty incredible from a detail and quality standpoint.

Resin is a more difficult material to work with than plastic. That's pretty much objective fact.

 cvtuttle wrote:
It's the "boutique" arm of the 40k Models. They also support Warhammer Fantasy with their Warhammer Forge line.

These are the high end of the model range from GW and they are primarily focusing right now on the Horus Heresy line of 30k models.

Forge World also put out books which detail various campaigns. There are three lines of these books but as far as the 40k universe is concerned you are only interested in the "Imperial Armour" line and the "Horus Heresy" line (if you are interested in the 30k time period).

You can expect to pay a premium for the books and models from Forge World, but you will be hard pressed to find anything that looks better. (IMHO)

Also they sell nice add on pieces (which is how I initially got into FW) such as Rhino and Land Raider doors as well as brass etch with specific chapter, legion symbols on them.

Carl aren't you on vacation? Get off dakka dakka before your wife kills you and I get screwed with no more IC podcast!!

 dementedwombat wrote:
I have to ask though, does anybody else think Forge World is kind of a pain in the butt to assemble compared to standard GW models? I'm not a great modeler by any stretch, but it seems like there's quite a bit more prep work that goes in and some of the pieces are a lot fiddlier (I'm looking at you XV9 elbows...).

Also I am not a model expert when it comes to comparing companies, but I think both GW standard and Forge World models are pretty incredible from a detail and quality standpoint.

You're completely right, FW models are advertised and considered "advanced" kits and resin is notoriously more difficult and hazardous to work for. Not recommended for beginners unless you get flawless sculpts on a simple kit.

Resin is a horrible material and I love to hate it very much.

Something like that, my hellguns are all alright, but my lasguns are all bent, most bayonets broke, its really depressing.

 lobbywatson wrote:

 cvtuttle wrote:
It's the "boutique" arm of the 40k Models. They also support Warhammer Fantasy with their Warhammer Forge line.

These are the high end of the model range from GW and they are primarily focusing right now on the Horus Heresy line of 30k models.

Forge World also put out books which detail various campaigns. There are three lines of these books but as far as the 40k universe is concerned you are only interested in the "Imperial Armour" line and the "Horus Heresy" line (if you are interested in the 30k time period).

You can expect to pay a premium for the books and models from Forge World, but you will be hard pressed to find anything that looks better. (IMHO)

Also they sell nice add on pieces (which is how I initially got into FW) such as Rhino and Land Raider doors as well as brass etch with specific chapter, legion symbols on them.

Carl aren't you on vacation? Get off dakka dakka before your wife kills you and I get screwed with no more IC podcast!!

Still in Maui - will be back late Saturday night. The wife was taking a nap after swimming with turtles

So out of interest, since resin is so much more annoying than plastics, why do FW use resins? I'm presuming it's more economical on shorter runs of models, since they will sell in smaller volume. Are there any non-economic based advantages?

 ansacs wrote:
They are the Porshe to the VW of GW.

But GW already makes the Porsche of wargames models!

God In Action wrote:
So out of interest, since resin is so much more annoying than plastics, why do FW use resins? I'm presuming it's more economical on shorter runs of models, since they will sell in smaller volume. Are there any non-economic based advantages?

Because the detail on resin is the best detail out there. I personally am more likely to buy a resin kit over a plastic one. The results are superior. Plastic puts me off most models unless they are exceptional (which few are).

God In Action wrote:
So out of interest, since resin is so much more annoying than plastics, why do FW use resins? I'm presuming it's more economical on shorter runs of models, since they will sell in smaller volume. Are there any non-economic based advantages?

Two reasons:

1) As you noted, it's better for low-volume production because the molds are so much cheaper. The molds for plastic kits cost thousands of dollars (on top of complex design work to make a functional mold) and people expect plastic kits to be cheap, so you need to have a large production run to recover that initial investment. Resin casting has much lower mold costs so you can recover your initial investment and start to make a profit with a much smaller production run.

2) Resin offers much better detail. Everything is sharper, you can do undercuts, etc. Consider something like the exhausts on a LRBT, where you have a cylinder with holes cut out of it (link). Notice how the circles are actually ovals on that tank? That's because circles would have a slight overhang and you wouldn't be able to pull the rigid metal mold apart. The FW LRBT variant has a similar piece, but the circles are true circles because resin casting uses flexible rubber molds that allow that kind of overhang. That kind of thing might not matter to most players who just want an adequate gaming piece, but for dedicated painters the subtle details like that matter and we're willing to pay more and put up with the extra difficulty of resin to get the better finished product.

Plus, it's not like GW's plastic kits are immune to fit problems or warped parts. I've spent plenty of time trying to clean up plastic parts, and it's actually harder in some ways. For example, warped plastic parts are much harder to straighten in hot water. So you're really only getting massive advantages in ease of assembly if you're the kind of person who just throws together a kit as fast as possible to get it on the table. If you take your time and do it right there's not that much of a difference.