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I am looking for advice on dealing with these pain in my butt models with Eldar.

A friend of mine runs these and dump about 600 - 700 points into them and gives them a 3++, I know wraith guard shooting and wraith knights in close combat will instant Death them if the wounds get through but if caught in CC they will die eventually.

I am looking for other options to deal with these guys or thin them out at least before I charge something into them.

I don't want to build a list specifically to kill these as when I do a kill a specific army I loose to everything else in Tourny's.

Any Advice would be great.

Kill the guy with the grimoire first.

its a Harald that is part of the squad and I typically don't run anything with precision shots.

If it's a herald that's riding in the unit, then they arent moving very fast (nurgle heralds don't have a cavalry steed). 6" move with no run should be pretty easy to stay away from, especially with speedy eldar. Just ignore that 700pts of his army, and kill the rest.

 McGibs wrote:
If it's a herald that's riding in the unit, then they arent moving very fast (nurgle heralds don't have a cavalry steed). 6" move with no run should be pretty easy to stay away from, especially with speedy eldar. Just ignore that 700pts of his army, and kill the rest.

It actually isnt that difficult to conga line the entire unit down field max coherency and sling shot the herald into combat. As seen with the dronestar a while back the slingshot tactic is very possible with fast moving nurgle units and heralds.

 A GumyBear wrote:

 McGibs wrote:
If it's a herald that's riding in the unit, then they arent moving very fast (nurgle heralds don't have a cavalry steed). 6" move with no run should be pretty easy to stay away from, especially with speedy eldar. Just ignore that 700pts of his army, and kill the rest.

It actually isnt that difficult to conga line the entire unit down field max coherency and sling shot the herald into combat. As seen with the dronestar a while back the slingshot tactic is very possible with fast moving nurgle units and heralds.

this is exactly true, and a very common tactic for him. Granted the new imperial knights that everybody seems to have 1 week after release are looking like a very good counter to this unit and killing it. with the 1 in 6 chance to remove a model from play with no saves of any kind allowed.

Imperial Knights are a hard counter to Beasts. Beasts have no ability to hurt a knight, Will lose 1-2 beasts from regular attacks and possibly more to stomps. Then need to take instability which if you lose 2 beasts is snake eyes or more wounds.

The herald is nurgle? Then they are only moving 6" a turn. S&P prevents them from running. I dont understand the problem, thats a really easy win.

If hes not nurgle then hes in another squad. Just kill that squad.

 changerofways wrote:
The herald is nurgle? Then they are only moving 6" a turn. S&P prevents them from running. I dont understand the problem, thats a really easy win. Not sure how one squad of beasts and a herald costs 600-700 points....I feel like im missing out on a lot of info

The beasts themselves will still move 12" a turn as long as they keep coherency with the Herald.

Mind you, the beasts can't hurt a lot of things: Dreadnoughts for instance, the Herald needs to grind it down (or have Iron Arm). The only thing the beasts have is a lot of attacks, no AP. Shouldn't be too hard to tarpit, especially if you can kill the Herald or keep it occupied.

Breng77 wrote:
Imperial Knights are a hard counter to Beasts. Beasts have no ability to hurt a knight, Will lose 1-2 beasts from regular attacks and possibly more to stomps. Then need to take instability which if you lose 2 beasts is snake eyes or more wounds.

I am not familiar with the instability? Is this something that Daemons have or something Imperial knights have?

Also in my meta Imperial knights have already been banned for competitive play by TO's

Matt2429 wrote:

Breng77 wrote:
Imperial Knights are a hard counter to Beasts. Beasts have no ability to hurt a knight, Will lose 1-2 beasts from regular attacks and possibly more to stomps. Then need to take instability which if you lose 2 beasts is snake eyes or more wounds.

I am not familiar with the instability? Is this something that Daemons have or something Imperial knights have?

Also in my meta Imperial knights have already been banned for competitive play by TO's

But... WHY? Because they're tall? Imperial Knights are strong, but they're not blatantly overpowered like everyone seems to think.

the reason they have given is because they don't allow stronghold or escalation and that Imperial Knights use D weapons in close combat.

A few people run that with plague drones instead of beasts. They have a bit more combat potential and can have poison +3, and a character. They are also jet packs, so dangerous terrain, but assault moves. In any event, the unit is very hard to kill, and can deal some serious damage.

Knights are a good counter to the entire daemon codex, not just beasts. No saves, instant removal from play, and even if we do manage to kill the knight, the explosion will kill whatever took out the knight.