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So I was reading looking through the daemon codex again and was trying to decide if I wanted to take icons in my daemon horde army. I noticed in the rules for demonic icons that nowhere does it state the icon has to be on the board for a full turn before the rest of my reinforcements arrive. IE I can drop an Icon squad first and land it, then no scatter squads of the same god within 6" of it in the same turns deepstrike. This may make my all slannesh army work for the better.

Whats the rules question here?

Is that actually how it works or am I missing the rules somewhere else that says it must be on the table?

Its exactly how you read it

Or possibly not. See page 125 of he BRB, first bolded paragraph as to why it may not work. It's one of the things that still need to be FAQed for the codex.

 Ghaz wrote:
Or possibly not. See page 125 of he BRB, first bolded paragraph as to why it may not work. It's one of the things that still need to be FAQed for the codex.

And the counter to that argument is that the icon is not an ability that has to be used at the start of the turn (it can, in fact be used at any portion of the turn to prevent a unit arriving by deep strike from scattering, which can, and does occur in other phases of the turn in some cases).

Some have tried to argue that the rule on pg 125 doesn't actually refer to special rules and abilities that have a timing which designates that they get used at the start of the turn, but rather that since normal deep strike arrival happens 'at the start of the turn' *any* special rule or ability that a unit has while arriving via deep strike therefore cannot be used...so a model that has move through cover would have to take a dangerous terrain check, or a model that has a special rule allowing it to re-roll a failed save couldn't use that on a failed dangerous terrain test armor save, etc, etc, etc.

So anyone who's nutty enough to play that 2nd interpretation can claim that you can't use your icon on the turn that it arrives. But anyone who agrees with that absurdity should be letting the icon be used the turn it arrives, as it's ability is not one that must be used at the start of the turn.

As I said, it is a possibility as already laid out in this three page thread and still needs to be FAQed.

Wow, months later and I still suck at making my point.

 Ghaz wrote:
As I said, it is a possibility as already laid out in this three page thread and still needs to be FAQed.

It is very clearly is not a possibility because the daemon Icon no where says it must be used at the start of the turn