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Okay so can someone kindly point me out to the page in the BRB that basically says when a piece of terrain partially blocks LoS between the firer and the target, the target gets a cover save, but if the firer is in base contact with the piece of terrain (like an ADL) that then this is no longer the case and the terrain isnt considered to be "in the way" in regards to the firer, and thus the target will not receive a cover save?

Obviously if the terrain blocks LoS, it blocks LoS and you can't shoot through it (even if you stood in base contact with it, like Gretchin behind the ADL).

But I'm talking about the scenario where a squad of space marines 18" away from, and firing at a squad of Eldar Guardians would grant the latter a 4+ cover save if an ADL was - say - 9" from each of the two squads, but wouldnt grant the Guardians a cover save if the Space marines were all in base contact with the ADL.

So, starting with pg 8, there are rules for Line of Sight. So if a model is up against an ADL, and you look from their eyes, you'll notice that a target 18" away isn't obscured by the ADL.

On the other hand, a model 18" from an ADL that shoots at a model on the other side of an ADL, will have most of that model obscured by the ADL, so that model gets a cover save.

Note, that there's a 25% "obscured" rule that applies to models wishing to take a cover save, that aren't in area terrain. Refer to pg 18, "Determining Cover Saves" top left.

So you take those two together, and that's why a model near to an ADL will probably get a cover save, while a model that's further away probably wont.

 Sir Arun wrote:

But I'm talking about the scenario where a squad of space marines 18" away from, and firing at a squad of Eldar Guardians would grant the latter a 4+ cover save if an ADL was - say - 9" from each of the two squads, but wouldnt grant the Guardians a cover save if the Space marines were all in base contact with the ADL.

Replace Gretchin with a wall and the Ork with a Guardian (as you can see I have reversed the roles from your scenario).

The Marine will not get a cover-save.
The Ork/Guardian will get a cover-save.

I don't think that is what he is asking.

He believes the following is true:
1) Marines are 6" from an ADL, and shooting at Guardians. Some of the guardians are at least 25% obscured. Those guardians would get a cover save.


2) Marines are 0" from an ADL, and shooting at Guardians. Some of the guardians are at least 25% obscured. Those guardians would *NOT* get a cover save, because the marines are touching the ADL.


Sir Arun.... scenario 2 is *not correct* If the guardians are obscured, they get the cover save. It doesn't matter if the marines are touching the ADL or not. (Same for any terrain)

There used to be a rule like this in 5E (or maybe 4E) but it does not exist in 6E.