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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/22 23:48:35
Subject: 2500pt CSM Cypher/Crimson Slaughter/Helbrute Formation
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Mutated Chosen Chaos Marine
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Just wanted to try a surprise infiltrate and destroy semi alpha strike list. I know I'm light on anti air and have squishy troops. Let me know what you think.
HQ
Huron Blackheart-Warlord 160pts
Troops
10 Cultists 50pts
10 Cultists 50pts
10 Cultists 50pts
Heavy Support
5 Havocs 135pts
4 Plasma Guns
5 Havocs 135pts
4 Plasma Guns
5 Havocs 135pts
4 Plasma Guns
Fast attack
Heldrake 170pts
Heldrake 170pts
Heldrake 170pts
Crimson Slaughter Ally Detachment
Sorcerer 160pts
Lvl3
Sigil
Bale star of Mannon
10 Cultists 50pts
Heldrake 170pts
Formations
Cypher 190pts
5 Chosen 130pts
4 Melta Gun
5 Chosen 130pts
4 Melta Gun
5 Chosen 130pts
4 Melta Guns
3 Helbrute 300pts
Multi Melta
Power Fist
2485pts total
Cypher's formation infiltrates the units of Chosen. Cypher and the Sorcerer join a unit of Havocs to infiltrate(our TO ruled he does infiltrate a unit he joins) it and buff it. Huron tries to infiltrate the rest of the Havocs. Helbrute formation deepstrikes in and causes pain. Cultists scramble to objectives. Heldrakes roast infantry. Automatically Appended Next Post: I may drop a units of Havocs to add an Aegis Defense Line with Quad Gun and use the extra points to add a 4th squad of cultists.
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2014/03/23 00:29:56
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/23 07:42:17
Subject: 2500pt CSM Cypher/Crimson Slaughter/Helbrute Formation
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Painlord Titan Princeps of Slaanesh
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This seems freaking awesome in concept. I would really like to hear a battle report.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/23 18:03:20
Subject: 2500pt CSM Cypher/Crimson Slaughter/Helbrute Formation
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Mutated Chosen Chaos Marine
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I'd have to get all the models built first lol
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/24 21:16:58
Subject: 2500pt CSM Cypher/Crimson Slaughter/Helbrute Formation
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Mutated Chosen Chaos Marine
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No one has any criticism?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/24 23:20:31
Subject: 2500pt CSM Cypher/Crimson Slaughter/Helbrute Formation
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Fixture of Dakka
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I've got nothing to add but wanted to say it looks like a very interesting list, would love to know how it plays out if you try it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/25 02:59:27
Subject: 2500pt CSM Cypher/Crimson Slaughter/Helbrute Formation
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Mutated Chosen Chaos Marine
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Thanks, I know servo skulls would wreck my strategy, but fortunately, only one or two people in my area use them lol
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/27 01:20:04
Subject: 2500pt CSM Cypher/Crimson Slaughter/Helbrute Formation
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Mutated Chosen Chaos Marine
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No one has any suggestions at all?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/27 06:42:10
Subject: 2500pt CSM Cypher/Crimson Slaughter/Helbrute Formation
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Your list is quite shooty, but I feel like the very small squads wont do much for you. I rarely run cultists under 20 for lists over 1000 points because things tend to take them out 5 or more at a time. I know you want to infiltrate as much as possible, but if you don't get first turn, you'll most likely be taking quite a bit of leadership tests. You have a lot of heldrakes which makes you incredibly reliant on at least 2 coming on the field turn 2 for this amount of points which is okay, but will be really bad if they are delayed. I'd probably recommend combining some squads of cultists into a bigger blob and maybe sticking some units in at least rhinos for better mobility since it doesn't look like you want to fight in close combat (rhinos can still infiltrate anyways).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/27 19:01:44
Subject: 2500pt CSM Cypher/Crimson Slaughter/Helbrute Formation
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Mutated Chosen Chaos Marine
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I've been thinking about dropping the Helbrutes to add an ADL with a Comma Relay to help get my Heldrakes on table. I could use the extra points for more Cultists, and add a few Rhinos.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/27 19:31:28
Subject: Re:2500pt CSM Cypher/Crimson Slaughter/Helbrute Formation
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Khorne Rhino Driver with Destroyer
Byron Bay, Australia
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Crimson Slaughter can't take models with VotLW can they? A rule Huron has?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/27 20:43:47
Subject: 2500pt CSM Cypher/Crimson Slaughter/Helbrute Formation
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Mutated Chosen Chaos Marine
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Models in a crimson slaughter detachment can't take votlw, except for zerkers, plague marines and noise marines. Nothing stops them from being in the same army or even the same unit with a model that has votlw. I don't remember off hand if Huron has votlw.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/29 21:19:38
Subject: 2500pt CSM Cypher/Crimson Slaughter/Helbrute Formation
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Mutated Chosen Chaos Marine
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Fortification
Aegis Defense Line 100pts
Quad Gun
HQ
Huron Blackheart-Warlord 160pts
Troops
21 Cultists 94pts
20 Cultists 90pts
Heavy Support
5 Havocs 182pts
4 Plasma Guns
Rhino
Havoc Laumcher
5 Havocs 182pts
4 Plasma Guns
Rhino
Havoc Launcher
5 Havocs 182pts
4 Plasma Guns
Rhino
Havoc Launcher
Fast attack
Heldrake 170pts
Heldrake 170pts
Heldrake 170pts
Crimson Slaughter Ally Detachment
Sorcerer 160pts
Lvl3
Sigil
Bale star of Mannon
20 Cultists 90pts
Heldrake 170pts
Formations
Cypher 190pts
5 Chosen 130pts
4 Melta Gun
5 Chosen 130pts
4 Melta Gun
5 Chosen 130pts
4 Melta Guns
Here's an updated list. I beefed up my cultist units, added Rhinos with Havoc Launchers(anti infantry), and an ADL with Quad Gun for anti air.
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