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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/26 14:31:52
Subject: 1850 Knights and Marimes
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Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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So I've been toying with how to use Knights with marines and think a mini Gravstar with Knights is the way forward. The initial plan was 2 Knights allied to marines so I could build a proper Gravstar with buffmander et al. However having invested in 2 Knights the benefits of taking a 3rd to make them all scoring and giving the leader tye super stats seemed too good. So here goes:
Knight Errant 370
Knight Errant 370
Knight Paladin 375
Severin Loth 175
Tactical Squad: missile launcher, combi-plasma 95
Storm Talon: SHM 125
4 Centurions: grav cannons, omniscope 340
Basically I throw the Gravstar and Knights at the enemy and ask them to deal with it. Massive damage potential and deathstar killing power between the Grav guns and D weapons. What do you think? Tac squad starts in reserve.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/26 14:40:33
Subject: 1850 Knights and Marimes
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Long-Range Ultramarine Land Speeder Pilot
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You might suffer against flying circuses with only 1 AA.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/26 17:13:36
Subject: 1850 Knights and Marimes
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Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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What Flying Circus causes me a problem?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/26 17:38:15
Subject: 1850 Knights and Marimes
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Long-Range Ultramarine Land Speeder Pilot
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Raven/talon spam.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/26 18:02:46
Subject: 1850 Knights and Marimes
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Sneaky Lictor
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If formations are allowed, skyblight would likely give you issues. couple of versions of be'lakor could be troublesome as well.
List I was looking at is the same knight set up as you, then...
Tigurius
Tac
Stormtalon
3 grav centurions
and adl with quad.
Lots of twin linking going on... nice shot at some ignores cover.
Could do your same set up but drop 1 centurion for the adl and quad... let loth man it with his bs5... means your pretty much hitting all 4 shots....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/26 18:23:29
Subject: 1850 Knights and Marimes
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Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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Talon and Raven spam doesn't cause me a huge problem at all. FMCs do damage in combat and they don't want to be near combat against me. I'd be more worried about stormteks jumping out of Nightscythes.
The problem with Tiggy is that he doesn't guarantee gate without gate the Centurions really struggle for range and mobility. I don't think a quadgun really helps against Belakor or Sky Blight it pops maybe 1 FMC before going down and weighs the whole list down with an anchor. I want to flood my opponents deployment zone as my main AA through avoidance.
Though I could swap the tac squad for scouts which I think fut better with the in your face style of the army. I was thinking of the tac squad as a backfield distraction unit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/26 18:49:43
Subject: 1850 Knights and Marimes
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Long-Range Ultramarine Land Speeder Pilot
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Ravens and talons will destroy your knights with no reply from them. Your one talon will be easily subdued, and the lack of skyfire will leave you seriously vulnerable.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/26 20:38:59
Subject: 1850 Knights and Marimes
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Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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Ravens will get at most 1 shot at the Knights and Talons will barely get that. My stormtalon is not the only threat to them the Centurions should kill any flyer they fire at with 20 shots. Stormtalons and Ravens are just unlikely to cause me a problem. Vendettas, Crimson Hunters and Autocannon Helldrakes are the flyers that cause me an issue. Two of those are never seen and the other is likely to get smashed by the nerf bat next month.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/26 20:49:06
Subject: 1850 Knights and Marimes
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Long-Range Ultramarine Land Speeder Pilot
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Any kind of target prioritisation will kill the centurions straight away. Alpha strike drop pods with fliers will make short work of this list.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/26 23:33:19
Subject: 1850 Knights and Marimes
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Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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Alphastriking DPs could cause me a problem. I just don't see them any more because Tau just nail them. As I said I don't see flyers causing me a real problem.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/27 09:30:48
Subject: 1850 Knights and Marimes
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Long-Range Ultramarine Land Speeder Pilot
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It'd be interesting to pit our lists together to see how this game would play out.
Also, as an Alpha DP user, the Tau interception thing is over stated. As will all lists and tactics, it's all down to the execution.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/27 09:43:36
Subject: 1850 Knights and Marimes
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Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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As a Tau player who's running 12 Broadsides and 2 Riptides all with interceptor at 1500 I love DP armies. Its a guaranteed tabling generally without losing any models. What's I your DP list? What comes down turn 1 and could it survive 48 twinlinked S7 shots and 48 twinlinked S5 shots and 2 S8 Ap2 large blasts and 2 melta guns? I'd take on your 1850 with my 1500 Tau that's how weak I see DP lists being against tge most commonly used competitive codex.
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