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**Easy E**

So, I hope all of you guys that have been playing Pandemic learned a thing or two. We need you now!

http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/31/health/africa-ebola/

CNN) -- An outbreak of Ebola hemorrhagic fever in West Africa has spread to Guinea's capital and beyond its borders in an "unprecedented epidemic," a leading aid agency reported Monday.

Ebola virus spreads to Guinea capital

Man tested for Ebola after trip to Africa A total of 122 patients are suspected of contracting Ebola and 78 have died, Doctors Without Borders said. Most victims have been in Guinea, but the World Health Organization reported Sunday that two deaths in Sierra Leone and one in Liberia are suspected to have been caused by the Ebola virus.

Cases have been identified in three provinces in Guinea near the borders and in Conakry, its coastal capital, said Mariano Lugli, the Doctors Without Borders coordinator there.

"We are facing an epidemic of a magnitude never before seen in terms of the distribution of cases in the country," Lugli said in a statement issued by the organization. Previous outbreaks "were much more geographically contained and involved more remote locations," he said.

Guinea: Ebola virus spreading fast "This geographical spread is worrisome, because it will greatly complicate the tasks of the organizations working to control the epidemic," Lugli said.

The organization, also known by its French name Medecins Sans Frontieres (MSF) describes Ebola as "one of the world's most deadly diseases." It spreads in the blood and shuts down the immune system, causing high fever, headache and muscle pain.

It is rare but creates panic, because there is no cure and it's fatal in up to 90% of cases, according to MSF. The variant seen in the Guinea outbreak is the so-called Zaire strain, which Lugli called "the most aggressive and deadly."

**Da Boss**

Holy crap, that is one scary virus. I suppose the "good news" is that it's so damn virulent it kills it's hosts before they can survive to infect too many others- but many, the idea of that getting into a major airport gives me the heebie jeebies.

**Frazzled**

If soeone got on the plane with it would the plane make it to land?

**Experiment 626**

Da Boss wrote:
Holy crap, that is one scary virus. I suppose the "good news" is that it's so damn virulent it kills it's hosts before they can survive to infect too many others- but many, the idea of that getting into a major airport gives me the heebie jeebies.

It's only a real problem in areas that lack things like basic sanitation.
It's not airborn, it's not bacterial, and it's very easy to quarantine due to being spread only through bodily fluids.

So sure, in Africa where it's mostly third world conditions and sanitation is non-existent, it's really, really scary!
Over here, not so much.

I'd be much more worried over crap like malaria or even influenza honestly.

**Da Boss**

I'm also more worried, realistically, about various 'flus, but you can't deny the visceral horror of something like ebola.

**Mr. Burning**

Frazzled wrote:
If soeone got on the plane with it would the plane make it to land?

72 hrs+ incubation time. IF someone got on a plane then they could get a fair distance.

Luckily it cannot be transmitted effectively through the air.

Oh Zaire loves to inhabit the Liver and testicles.

**Frazzled**

Oh Zaire loves to inhabit the Liver and testicles.

Thats pretty rude! Get out of here you BUG!

**KingCracker**

I'm a seasoned Pandemic player. Trust me, there's nothing to worry about. It's either going to kill off its infected before spreading to wide, our since its already news worthy, they will have cured it before it gets out of hand.

Carry on.

**Jihadin**

If they stand back up after being declared dead let us know real quick like.

**TheAuldGrump**

Experiment 626 wrote:
Da Boss wrote:
Holy crap, that is one scary virus. I suppose the "good news" is that it's so damn virulent it kills it's hosts before they can survive to infect too many others- but many, the idea of that getting into a major airport gives me the heebie jeebies.

It's only a real problem in areas that lack things like basic sanitation.
It's not airborn, it's not bacterial, and it's very easy to quarantine due to being spread only through bodily fluids.

So sure, in Africa where it's mostly third world conditions and sanitation is non-existent, it's really, really scary!
Over here, not so much.

I'd be much more worried over crap like malaria or even influenza honestly.

Influenza has killed more people than the bubonic plague - just not as many over as short a time. (Though what it did to the US at the start of the US involvement in WWI is pretty danged grim.)

Bubonic was epidemic - influenza is pandemic, and mutates at a much faster rate than most diseases - there are just so many different strains of the beast.

As for cholera... The Ghost Map is an excellent book on the beginnings of tracking diseases to their source.

Ebola?

Scary, but under limited circumstances, it is the symptoms that make it scary, not the number of vectors or how contagious it might be.

The Auld Grump

**efarrer**

TheAuldGrump wrote:
Experiment 626 wrote:
Da Boss wrote:
Holy crap, that is one scary virus. I suppose the "good news" is that it's so damn virulent it kills it's hosts before they can survive to infect too many others- but many, the idea of that getting into a major airport gives me the heebie jeebies.

It's only a real problem in areas that lack things like basic sanitation.
It's not airborn, it's not bacterial, and it's very easy to quarantine due to being spread only through bodily fluids.

So sure, in Africa where it's mostly third world conditions and sanitation is non-existent, it's really, really scary!
Over here, not so much.

I'd be much more worried over crap like malaria or even influenza honestly.
Influenza has killed more people than the bubonic plague - just not as many over as short a time. (Though what it did to the US at the start of the US involvement in WWI is pretty danged grim.)

Bubonic was epidemic - influenza is pandemic, and mutates at a much faster rate than most diseases - there are just so many different strains of the beast.

As for cholera... The Ghost Map is an excellent book on the beginnings of tracking diseases to their source.

Ebola?

Scary, but under limited circumstances, it is the symptoms that make it scary, not the number of vectors or how contagious it might be.

The Auld Grump

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/04/02/ebola-guinea/7214213/

Ebola is one of the most contagious viral diseases known. It is spread through bodily fluids, such as the sweat, blood or saliva, of an infected person or animal. One can get it through sex as well.

**Maddermax**

KingCracker wrote:
I'm a seasoned Pandemic player. Trust me, there's nothing to worry about. It's either going to kill off its infected before spreading to wide, our since its already news worthy, they will have cured it before it gets out of hand.

Carry on.

Indeed, but I think I'll look into moving to Greenland, just to be on the safe side

Seriously, Greenland could teach president madagascar a thing or two about shutting down everything.

efarrer wrote:
TheAuldGrump wrote:
Experiment 626 wrote:
Da Boss wrote:
Holy crap, that is one scary virus. I suppose the "good news" is that it's so damn virulent it kills it's hosts before they can survive to infect too many others- but many, the idea of that getting into a major airport gives me the heebie jeebies.

It's only a real problem in areas that lack things like basic sanitation.
It's not airborn, it's not bacterial, and it's very easy to quarantine due to being spread only through bodily fluids.

So sure, in Africa where it's mostly third world conditions and sanitation is non-existent, it's really, really scary!
Over here, not so much.

I'd be much more worried over crap like malaria or even influenza honestly.
Influenza has killed more people than the bubonic plague - just not as many over as short a time. (Though what it did to the US at the start of the US involvement in WWI is pretty danged grim.)

Bubonic was epidemic - influenza is pandemic, and mutates at a much faster rate than most diseases - there are just so many different strains of the beast.

As for cholera... The Ghost Map is an excellent book on the beginnings of tracking diseases to their source.

Ebola?

Scary, but under limited circumstances, it is the symptoms that make it scary, not the number of vectors or how contagious it might be.

The Auld Grump

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/04/02/ebola-guinea/7214213/

Ebola is one of the most contagious viral diseases known. It is spread through bodily fluids, such as the sweat, blood or saliva, of an infected person or animal. One can get it through sex as well.

It should also be noted that there are ebola strains which have been capable of being airborne before - just not the most horrible and deadly strains in humans as of yet. It doesn't mean it would become pandemic... but it certainly wouldn't be good.

**Orlanth**

Don't mess with the Three Sisters:
Ebola Sudan, Ebola Zaire and Marburg.

**Mr Nobody**

Here's an update. Apparently there's an angry mob trying to attack a clinic.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/ebola-clinic-in-guinea-evacuated-after-attack-1.2599555

Which strikes as stupid. wouldn't you want to head in the opposite direction of Ebola victims.

**timetowaste85**

From reading that article, at least bus patrons are well-readied to survive if the Zombie Apocalypse hits.

When! When the zombie apocalypse hits. I'm sorry!!! *ducks flying objects*

**Kilkrazy**

efarrer wrote:
TheAuldGrump wrote:
Experiment 626 wrote:
Da Boss wrote:
Holy crap, that is one scary virus. ...

... ... ...

Ebola?

Scary, but under limited circumstances, it is the symptoms that make it scary, not the number of vectors or how contagious it might be.

The Auld Grump

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/04/02/ebola-guinea/7214213/

Ebola is one of the most contagious viral diseases known. ... ... . One can get it through sex as well.

Most of us are safe, then. I knew there would be a bonus to being a wargame otaku.

**NuggzTheNinja**

Mr Nobody wrote:
Here's an update. Apparently there's an angry mob trying to attack a clinic.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/ebola-clinic-in-guinea-evacuated-after-attack-1.2599555

Which strikes as stupid. wouldn't you want to head in the opposite direction of Ebola victims.

Africa isn't exactly known for producing brilliant minds...

**Soladrin**

That actually looks quite brilliant.

**SilentScreamer**

Eh, it kinda sucks if this is the zombie apocalypse... despite reading so much on how to survive one I really just feel like not bothering to go and prepare. If it spreads to the UK I guess I'll go out and buy some spam or spaghetti and sausages.

Ebola is the deadliest disease known on the world... the only reason humanity hasn't gone extinct because of it is because it kills so quickly. Should be interesting to see how this turns out, If I die it will be due to my family (they go outside...) most likely.

**Gitzbitah**

I'm with Soladrin. That is a prime example of the 'Bill Murray' camouflage principal- no one will believe you.

**poppa G**

Well good thing I live in America and not Africa...

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Mr. Burning wrote:
Frazzled wrote:
If soeone got on the plane with it would the plane make it to land?

72 hrs+ incubation time. IF someone got on a plane then they could get a fair distance.

Luckily it cannot be transmitted effectively through the air.

Oh Zaire loves to inhabit the Liver and testicles.

Going completely off-topic here but your picture looks something out of a porno.
OT-Ebola...Canola

**Mr. Burning**

poppa G wrote:
Well good thing I live in America and not Africa...

Automatically Appended Next Post:

Mr. Burning wrote:
Frazzled wrote:
If soeone got on the plane with it would the plane make it to land?

72 hrs+ incubation time. IF someone got on a plane then they could get a fair distance.

Luckily it cannot be transmitted effectively through the air.

Oh Zaire loves to inhabit the Liver and testicles.

Going completely off-topic here but your picture looks something out of a porno.
OT-Ebola...Canola

You know full well its from an Ebola education film!

**timetowaste85**

Poppa G...how do you not recognize the lovely Ms. (at least I hope it's 'Miss') Gianna Michaels.

**Mr. Burning**

timetowaste85 wrote:
Poppa G...how do you not recognize the lovely Ms. (at least I hope it's 'Miss') Gianna Michaels.

'Glargl glargl.glargl. Oh hello I didn't see you there. My name is Gianna Michaels and you may know me as a nasty throating skank whore. I'm here today to talk about something even more nasty, Ebola'.

**Easy E**

I heard some pretty alarming stuff on NPR about the number of doctors in Liberia. They were saying that after the civil war there, the country had about 50 doctors. At the time of the current Ebola outbreak they were up to 60 or so. Sadly, a fewhave already died of Ebola bringing them closer to 50 again.

That lack of trained staff in West Africa plus the lack of medical supplies is causing huge issues.

**Mr. Burning**

Easy E wrote:
I heard some pretty alarming stuff on NPR about the number of doctors in Liberia. They were saying that after the civil war there, the country had about 50 doctors. At the time of the current Ebola outbreak they were up to 60 or so. Sadly, a fewhave already died of Ebola bringing them closer to 50 again.

That lack of trained staff in West Africa plus the lack of medical supplies is causing huge issues.

Its causing panic and local traditions and superstitions are not helping.

Its also spread and or spreading with no end seen yet.

It could also be mutating as it jumps from host to host.

The drug ZMapp could be effective and has started to be used.

Some patients who have fought off the virus and are cured have been been ostracized by their families and friends.

**Ensis Ferrae**

SilentScreamer wrote:
Eh, it kinda sucks if this is the zombie apocalypse... despite reading so much on how to survive one I really just feel like not bothering to go and prepare. If it spreads to the UK I guess I'll go out and buy some spam or spaghetti and sausages.

Ebola is the deadliest disease known on the world... the only reason humanity hasn't gone extinct because of it is because it kills so quickly. Should be interesting to see how this turns out, If I die it will be due to my family (they go outside...) most likely.

I think it's also important to point out that medical cleanliness and medical practices are much, MUCH higher in the "West" than they are in Africa, so it's spread would be much slower by comparison.

Also, at that picture.... Is that person on the right also auditioning for the WWE?

**DarkTraveler777**

Mr. Burning wrote:
[Some patients who have fought off the virus and are cured have been been ostracized by their families and friends.

Whoa, what? Not that I disbelieve you, but source? I'd like to learn more about this.

**Evil_Toast**

http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/10/world/africa/ebola-survivor-red-cross/

Africa. It's like a different planet.

**Soladrin**

Evil_Toast wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/10/world/africa/ebola-survivor-red-cross/

Africa. It's like a different planet.

It isn't? Cause we sure as hell treat it that way.