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Was lucky enough to get to Salute the weekend. was only planning to pick up HH book 3 but in true hobby fashion had to get the some more Mechanicum stuff. Still haven't picked a Legion so mars it is for now

Managed to get a few minutes chatting to one of the forge world guys towards the end of the day which was very generous of him as those guys and girls were run of their feet all day. A lot of this stuff has been said elsewhere but id thought id put it here in case people haven't seen this stuff. Thanks again to the Forgeworld guys and the Salute staff for an awesome day.


Horus Heresy-

The guys were saying that the original plan was for Prospero to be next but that may change for a couple of reasons. Play testing has been complicated with the Prospero book as TS have been difficult to do as they won't to represent the legion properly (everyone a psyker, etc) but without making it as simple as the rules for say, Grey Knights. Plus the Adeptus Custodes and SoS rules have to be balanced to not make them too OTT and OP.

The other reason is a potential business one (fair enough. There not a charity) If they did Calth next that obviously brings in imperial Army. The guy was saying that FW isn't naive enough to think that people will pay out for all resin IA sized armies so the plastic range will be fully compatible. Thus FW will be able to say to the literally thousands of guard 40k players, "if the cost has put you off before, you have a ready made 30k army sat there already"

FW already has an extensive IG resin range already done and on the website. there will be specific Heresy era tanks and infantry to give a "great crusade feel" The other more, hobbyish reason was that it would allow people to play with 30k rules in a kinda great crusade scenario, playing a legion fighting a human empire using STC tech.


Multiple Models-

The plan is over the expanse of the the books (more on that below) is that there will be multiple versions of some characters. Horus on the battle barge, daemon primarchs, Khan on a bike etc. He did emphasise that this was the general idea and no firm plans existed.

Extent of books-

He brought up a good point, saying that FW considers this a ten year project, at minimum. given the current pace of two books per year (not guaranteed but what they are aiming at) thats potentially a twenty volume saga. Given that we are at book three and the three books we have confirmed as happening at some point, Calth, Prospero and a Mars book, that inside of six books they shall have-


15 outta of the 18 legions with only DA, BA and WS left.
Imperial Army
Adeptus Custodes
Sisters of Silence
Mechanicum
Dark Mechanicum


That leaves a whopping 14 books to expand upon. He was saying that individual legions would get expansions in terms of characters and units along the way plus other factions would come in along the way such as

Rogue Trader Militant- has been mentioned in all three books. Will be able to take other armies (AM, IA, Legions) as allies with special characters and certain Rogue Trader units to lead them.

Agents of emperor/warmaster- This has been mentioned in book one betrayal. He said this one was way in the future but would include the kinda things you could imagine assassins orders etc and would probably be more individual characters and units as allies rather then a army in its own right. I asked if Garro would be in there. Guy just smiled!! said that there were no specific plans but can't imagine that they wouldn't.


Im off to soak up the sunshine on the balcony and start putting together these Secutors. Till next time


TonyTT

There is already a place to put this info http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/574064.page

Awesome news!

10 years?!

Dammit, that means there may not be new xenos and WHFB releases in a while

I was hoping they'd do War in Heaven soon.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
10 years?!

Dammit, that means there may not be new xenos and WHFB releases in a while

I was hoping they'd do War in Heaven soon.

Warhammer Forge feels pretty dead in the water, unless fantasty gets a major boost in sales.

I'd wish we'd at least get models that are missing from the Existing range I.E. Kutlakh, but that will never happen it seems like.

 Sasori wrote:

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
10 years?!

Dammit, that means there may not be new xenos and WHFB releases in a while

I was hoping they'd do War in Heaven soon.

Warhammer Forge feels pretty dead in the water, unless fantasty gets a major boost in sales.

I'd wish we'd at least get models that are missing from the Existing range I.E. Kutlakh, but that will never happen it seems like.

Warhammer Forges' initial success was predominantly driven by Chaos Dwarves selling as well as they did. Then GW pretty much insisted that they do more to support existing armies and all the effort going into Chaos Dwarves dried up. Warhammer Fantasy has largely become a secondary game to most players. Warhammer Forge unfortunately started up at a particular tipping point where GW's unpopular shift in Warhammer Fantasy's game play drastically on to sorcery made too much of many armies unimportant or needing to be replaced with new units. That in concert with generally high price hikes for bothe fantasy and 40k forced people to make the decision whether to update their secondary game's army to the detriment of their 40k armies and other games they play or to abandon Warhammer fantasy. In my area I'm aware of 5 people who still play fantasy, while there are closer to a hundred 40k players. Those guys drive 3 hours to meet up with another equally sized group just so they can have tournaments. This is in Texas, but I just moved from Pennsylvania and it wasn't much better there.

I think for many gamers wanting a fantasy fix they've largely moved on to the Privateer Press games. Volume of game play, I have no doubt those games out performs Warhammer fantasy.