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Now, anyone who has seen this movie would probably think, what's this doing in the 40k background section of dakka?

Well, I just watched this:
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/movie-defense-force/9071-Event-Horizon-You-Wont-Need-Eyes-To-See

Well, at the very end of this video he makes a very interesting point. Watch it and think of it while it's the prequel to 40k.

This simple thing works so amazingly well I just felt like sharing it.

It's about a state of the art new space ship that folds space to travel from one point to the other, yet, on the maiden voyage something goes terribly awry and the crew just goes completely insane(watch the movie if you want to know how bad it gets ).
It's a very simple leap to think of it as the first (unshielded) warp voyage.

Just felt like sharing this nugget of fun.

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Not new - 40k players have been posting about this since the movie came out.


It's also applicable to Cthulhu mythos.

During the warp jump, they go through the centre of the universe and take a chunk of Gnarly ( \m/ ) ho-tep with them.

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Yeah, it's not really anything new. Awesome nonetheless, though.

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The center of the universe is Azag-Thoth, the Blind Idiot God.

Nyarlathotep frequently shows up on Earth. He's where we got the secrets of the atom from (so we can eventually cleanse our world of life with atomic fire, most likely).

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 chromedog wrote:
Not new - 40k players have been posting about this since the movie came out.


It's also applicable to Cthulhu mythos.

During the warp jump, they go through the centre of the universe and take a chunk of Gnarly ( \m/ ) ho-tep with them.


Fair enough, first time I came across this. I watched Event Horizon years ago, way before I got into 40k so I never really made the connection.
   
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Connections can be made to the warp in many movies, Hellraiser, from beyond etcetera.

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Read Lovecraft's "The Dream Cycle of Unknown Kadath." It describes warp travel to the letter...except on a wooden ship.



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Great movie....

40k took everything from a lot of different sources. They merged it into a single universe, and found that it was cooler than the original sources.

I always thought of Event Horizon as part of 40k. They used a warp drive, obviously.

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Just throwing it out there, I believe there is a line in the film, towards the end I think, that refers to 'chaos'

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chaos0xomega wrote:
Just throwing it out there, I believe there is a line in the film, towards the end I think, that refers to 'chaos'
And the ships AI turns evil, maybe even 'possessed...'

And the fact that there are spikes all over the warp drive.

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The interior designer of the event horison is the same person who designed the spiky bits on all the chaos contraptions.

   
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I think the architect of the Event Horizon somehow wanted the ship to meet the end it got. The entire inside has got to be one of the most depressing starship interiors ever.



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The way you can tell EH is obviously a horror movie in space is because of how the ship looks. It's dark, it's Gothic, it's got sharp edges and spikes all over everything....

... and yet, it's claimed to be a government-funded project. Sorry... if the government had footed the bill to pay for that thing, it'd have been beige, with fluorescent lights in the ceiling, and an OSHA inspector every ten feet telling people to put a guard-rail on every walkway, safety-cages around anything with spikes and, for the love of God, round off those corners! In what could be a zero-G environment in an emergency, you don't want people drifting onto sharp corners!

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Yeah. It would have Star Trek-grade grey industrial carpeting, too.

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Does the Inquisition ban all spiky stuff within the Imperium?

Cos spikiness is for Chaos.
   
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Scions have spike designs.

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Scions have spike designs.

Bingo! Further proof of the Alpha Legion work...

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Event Horizon, why you develop Gellar Fields alongside Warp Engines, not after

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 Hlaine Larkin mk2 wrote:
Event Horizon, why you develop Gellar Fields alongside Warp Engines, not after


Because, much like Madame Curie dying of radiation poisoning, you don't know you need protection from the unintended side effects of an invention until after it's been invented. You can't make an omelet without opening a few portals to hell. Science!

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 da001 wrote:
 Ashiraya wrote:
Scions have spike designs.

Bingo! Further proof of the Alpha Legion work...


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 Ashiraya wrote:
Scions have spike designs.

Not really. There is a single "spiked" helmet design and it's intended to be used for a Scion Tempestor/Tempestor Prime(Sergeants and Lieutenants, respectively).
   
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 Kanluwen wrote:
 Ashiraya wrote:
Scions have spike designs.

Not really. There is a single "spiked" helmet design and it's intended to be used for a Scion Tempestor/Tempestor Prime(Sergeants and Lieutenants, respectively).


Further proof that they're led by the Alpha Legion,only the higher ranking ones have spikes

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I don't think they'll FAQ a White Dwarf...
Perhaps not, but since GW seems to subsist off sadness and pain, I can't rule it out.


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So, correct me if I'm wrong as I haven't seen the movie, but the Gellar Field sounds like the same concept as a tesseraction from A Wrinkle in Time. Meaning no alternate universe, no Warp.

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 Will1541 wrote:
So, correct me if I'm wrong as I haven't seen the movie, but the Gellar Field sounds like the same concept as a tesseraction from A Wrinkle in Time. Meaning no alternate universe, no Warp.


Not quite.

The Gellar Field is something from 40k, not Event Horizon. In both Event Horizon and 40k there is definitely an alternate universe. In both of them, they are dimensions of pure Chaos. The Warp Drive rips a hole in the universe that ships can travel through. They are then spit out in another part of the galaxy. Essentially, you pop in a portal, travel a short time through the Warp, and pop out of another portal back into the material universe. This form of travel allows you to cut the travel time into a tiny fraction of what it would be by normal space travel. Now, in 40k, the Gellar Field is a device used to shield the denizens of the starship from the mutating, dangerous, and corrupting powers of the Warp. It does this by creating a "bubble" of real/material space around the hull of the ship. Essentially, it makes sure that Daemons don't materialize on board during Warp travel and the crew isn't driven mad by the whispers of Chaos.

In Event Horizon, they basically went into the Warp with no protection against the horrible things that exist in it. Thus, they payed the consequences.

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Yep, the setup for Event Horizon pretty well screams Warhammer 40k. One of the reasons I love it. I also personally believe that the Chronicles of Riddick films take place in a corner of the 40k universe.

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Yep, the setup for Event Horizon pretty well screams Warhammer 40k.


Actually 40K Chaos screams Lovecraft, and Michael Moorcock. If Event Horizon reminds you of 40K it's because it has taken inspiration from the same sources.
   
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 Psienesis wrote:
The way you can tell EH is obviously a horror movie in space is because of how the ship looks. It's dark, it's Gothic, it's got sharp edges and spikes all over everything....

... and yet, it's claimed to be a government-funded project. Sorry... if the government had footed the bill to pay for that thing, it'd have been beige, with fluorescent lights in the ceiling, and an OSHA inspector every ten feet telling people to put a guard-rail on every walkway, safety-cages around anything with spikes and, for the love of God, round off those corners! In what could be a zero-G environment in an emergency, you don't want people drifting onto sharp corners!


Yeah, that's one of the things that put me off the movie. The ship is so transparently evul that it kills most of the mystery. The only thing that's left is the gore which is...excessive.
I kinda sniggered when that kid stuck his hand in that black portal. I mean, dude, it's an omninous black hole in a mechanism that just turned itself on for no reason, what did you think was going to happen?
As you can tell, I didn't particularly like Event Horizon that much. Too typical for me.
I have to say though, those flash backs of hell were pretty good. One of the good moments of the film, because mind screw.

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 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
 Psienesis wrote:
The way you can tell EH is obviously a horror movie in space is because of how the ship looks. It's dark, it's Gothic, it's got sharp edges and spikes all over everything....

... and yet, it's claimed to be a government-funded project. Sorry... if the government had footed the bill to pay for that thing, it'd have been beige, with fluorescent lights in the ceiling, and an OSHA inspector every ten feet telling people to put a guard-rail on every walkway, safety-cages around anything with spikes and, for the love of God, round off those corners! In what could be a zero-G environment in an emergency, you don't want people drifting onto sharp corners!


Yeah, that's one of the things that put me off the movie. The ship is so transparently evul that it kills most of the mystery. The only thing that's left is the gore which is...excessive.
I assumed the ship turned evil-looking when it went through Hell. Government-funded buildings can turn pretty creepy when abandoned.

Or perhaps we look at it through the eyes of scared people.

Another possibility: someone in the project knew what was going to happen, and the construction involved dark knowledge (thus the spikes).

I kinda sniggered when that kid stuck his hand in that black portal. I mean, dude, it's an omninous black hole in a mechanism that just turned itself on for no reason, what did you think was going to happen?
Yeah that was kinda silly. Still loved the movie though

As you can tell, I didn't particularly like Event Horizon that much. Too typical for me.
I have to say though, those flash backs of hell were pretty good. One of the good moments of the film, because mind screw.
I am curious: name me 5 similar movies (with a similar budget). I can only think of Doom, which is really bad.

The flash-backs were cool, yet a copy-paste from Hellraiser.

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