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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/17 23:19:06
Subject: Event Horizon
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Now, anyone who has seen this movie would probably think, what's this doing in the 40k background section of dakka?
Well, I just watched this:
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/movie-defense-force/9071-Event-Horizon-You-Wont-Need-Eyes-To-See
Well, at the very end of this video he makes a very interesting point. Watch it and think of it while it's the prequel to 40k.
This simple thing works so amazingly well I just felt like sharing it.
It's about a state of the art new space ship that folds space to travel from one point to the other, yet, on the maiden voyage something goes terribly awry and the crew just goes completely insane(watch the movie if you want to know how bad it gets  ).
It's a very simple leap to think of it as the first (unshielded) warp voyage.
Just felt like sharing this nugget of fun.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/17 23:25:38
Subject: Event Horizon
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Anti-Armour Swiss Guard
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Not new - 40k players have been posting about this since the movie came out.
It's also applicable to Cthulhu mythos.
During the warp jump, they go through the centre of the universe and take a chunk of Gnarly ( \m/ ) ho-tep with them.
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I'm OVER 50 (and so far over everyone's BS, too).
Old enough to know better, young enough to not give a ****.
That is not dead which can eternal lie ...
... and yet, with strange aeons, even death may die.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/17 23:37:09
Subject: Event Horizon
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Huge Hierodule
United States
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Yeah, it's not really anything new. Awesome nonetheless, though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/17 23:41:04
Subject: Event Horizon
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Seattle
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The center of the universe is Azag-Thoth, the Blind Idiot God.
Nyarlathotep frequently shows up on Earth. He's where we got the secrets of the atom from (so we can eventually cleanse our world of life with atomic fire, most likely).
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It is best to be a pessimist. You are usually right and, when you're wrong, you're pleasantly surprised. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/18 00:49:12
Subject: Event Horizon
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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chromedog wrote:Not new - 40k players have been posting about this since the movie came out.
It's also applicable to Cthulhu mythos.
During the warp jump, they go through the centre of the universe and take a chunk of Gnarly ( \m/ ) ho-tep with them.
Fair enough, first time I came across this. I watched Event Horizon years ago, way before I got into 40k so I never really made the connection.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/18 08:39:53
Subject: Event Horizon
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Fixture of Dakka
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Connections can be made to the warp in many movies, Hellraiser, from beyond etcetera.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/18 08:42:56
Subject: Event Horizon
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Cosmic Joe
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Read Lovecraft's "The Dream Cycle of Unknown Kadath." It describes warp travel to the letter...except on a wooden ship.
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Also, check out my history blog: Minimum Wage Historian, a fun place to check out history that often falls between the couch cushions. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/18 09:30:25
Subject: Event Horizon
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You can find Lovecraft's influence in so much of popular culture these days.
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"almost as good as winning free cake at the tea drinking contest for an Englishman." -Reds8n
Seal up your lips and give no words but mum.
Equip, Reload. Do violence.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/18 12:16:58
Subject: Event Horizon
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Morphing Obliterator
Elsewhere
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Great movie....
40k took everything from a lot of different sources. They merged it into a single universe, and found that it was cooler than the original sources.
I always thought of Event Horizon as part of 40k. They used a warp drive, obviously.
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‘Your warriors will stand down and withdraw, Curze. That is an order, not a request. (…) When this campaign is won, you and I will have words’
Rogal Dorn, just before taking the beating of his life.
from The Dark King, by Graham McNeill.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/18 12:52:10
Subject: Event Horizon
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
The Great State of New Jersey
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Just throwing it out there, I believe there is a line in the film, towards the end I think, that refers to 'chaos'
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/18 14:52:14
Subject: Event Horizon
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Land Raider Pilot on Cruise Control
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chaos0xomega wrote:Just throwing it out there, I believe there is a line in the film, towards the end I think, that refers to 'chaos' 
And the ships AI turns evil, maybe even 'possessed...'
And the fact that there are spikes all over the warp drive.
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Blood Ravens 2nd Company (C:SM)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/18 15:01:34
Subject: Event Horizon
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
Manchester, UK
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Sam Neil, not smart enough to develop the Gellar Field.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/18 15:05:14
Subject: Event Horizon
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Liche Priest Hierophant
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The interior designer of the event horison is the same person who designed the spiky bits on all the chaos contraptions.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/18 20:56:51
Subject: Re:Event Horizon
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Fixture of Dakka
West Michigan, deep in Whitebread, USA
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I think the architect of the Event Horizon somehow wanted the ship to meet the end it got. The entire inside has got to be one of the most depressing starship interiors ever.
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"By this point I'm convinced 100% that every single race in the 40k universe have somehow tapped into the ork ability to just have their tech work because they think it should." |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/18 21:24:09
Subject: Event Horizon
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Seattle
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The way you can tell EH is obviously a horror movie in space is because of how the ship looks. It's dark, it's Gothic, it's got sharp edges and spikes all over everything....
... and yet, it's claimed to be a government-funded project. Sorry... if the government had footed the bill to pay for that thing, it'd have been beige, with fluorescent lights in the ceiling, and an OSHA inspector every ten feet telling people to put a guard-rail on every walkway, safety-cages around anything with spikes and, for the love of God, round off those corners! In what could be a zero-G environment in an emergency, you don't want people drifting onto sharp corners!
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It is best to be a pessimist. You are usually right and, when you're wrong, you're pleasantly surprised. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/19 04:57:55
Subject: Re:Event Horizon
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Fixture of Dakka
West Michigan, deep in Whitebread, USA
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Yeah. It would have Star Trek-grade grey industrial carpeting, too.
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"By this point I'm convinced 100% that every single race in the 40k universe have somehow tapped into the ork ability to just have their tech work because they think it should." |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/19 15:10:54
Subject: Re:Event Horizon
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Gavin Thorpe
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Does the Inquisition ban all spiky stuff within the Imperium?
Cos spikiness is for Chaos.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/19 15:38:02
Subject: Event Horizon
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Glorious Lord of Chaos
The burning pits of Hades, also known as Sweden in summer
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Scions have spike designs.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/19 16:03:08
Subject: Event Horizon
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Morphing Obliterator
Elsewhere
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Bingo! Further proof of the Alpha Legion work...
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‘Your warriors will stand down and withdraw, Curze. That is an order, not a request. (…) When this campaign is won, you and I will have words’
Rogal Dorn, just before taking the beating of his life.
from The Dark King, by Graham McNeill.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/19 20:07:46
Subject: Event Horizon
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
Perth/Glasgow
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Event Horizon, why you develop Gellar Fields alongside Warp Engines, not after
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Currently debating whether to study for my exams or paint some Deathwing |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/19 23:32:41
Subject: Event Horizon
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Shrieking Traitor Sentinel Pilot
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Because, much like Madame Curie dying of radiation poisoning, you don't know you need protection from the unintended side effects of an invention until after it's been invented. You can't make an omelet without opening a few portals to hell. Science!
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40k is 111% science.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/20 12:05:48
Subject: Event Horizon
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Committed Chaos Cult Marine
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da001 wrote:
Bingo! Further proof of the Alpha Legion work...
This
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/21 05:07:15
Subject: Event Horizon
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Not really. There is a single "spiked" helmet design and it's intended to be used for a Scion Tempestor/Tempestor Prime(Sergeants and Lieutenants, respectively).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/21 14:46:02
Subject: Event Horizon
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Three Color Minimum
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Kanluwen wrote:
Not really. There is a single "spiked" helmet design and it's intended to be used for a Scion Tempestor/Tempestor Prime(Sergeants and Lieutenants, respectively).
Further proof that they're led by the Alpha Legion,only the higher ranking ones have spikes
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/21 21:32:31
Subject: Event Horizon
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Bush? No, Eldar Ranger
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So, correct me if I'm wrong as I haven't seen the movie, but the Gellar Field sounds like the same concept as a tesseraction from A Wrinkle in Time. Meaning no alternate universe, no Warp.
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School's out, the War Machine rolls once more
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/22 06:06:39
Subject: Event Horizon
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Huge Hierodule
United States
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Will1541 wrote:So, correct me if I'm wrong as I haven't seen the movie, but the Gellar Field sounds like the same concept as a tesseraction from A Wrinkle in Time. Meaning no alternate universe, no Warp.
Not quite.
The Gellar Field is something from 40k, not Event Horizon. In both Event Horizon and 40k there is definitely an alternate universe. In both of them, they are dimensions of pure Chaos. The Warp Drive rips a hole in the universe that ships can travel through. They are then spit out in another part of the galaxy. Essentially, you pop in a portal, travel a short time through the Warp, and pop out of another portal back into the material universe. This form of travel allows you to cut the travel time into a tiny fraction of what it would be by normal space travel. Now, in 40k, the Gellar Field is a device used to shield the denizens of the starship from the mutating, dangerous, and corrupting powers of the Warp. It does this by creating a "bubble" of real/material space around the hull of the ship. Essentially, it makes sure that Daemons don't materialize on board during Warp travel and the crew isn't driven mad by the whispers of Chaos.
In Event Horizon, they basically went into the Warp with no protection against the horrible things that exist in it. Thus, they payed the consequences.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/22 07:30:32
Subject: Re:Event Horizon
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Been Around the Block
West Virginia
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Yep, the setup for Event Horizon pretty well screams Warhammer 40k. One of the reasons I love it. I also personally believe that the Chronicles of Riddick films take place in a corner of the 40k universe.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/22 09:47:46
Subject: Re:Event Horizon
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Confessor Of Sins
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Actually 40K Chaos screams Lovecraft, and Michael Moorcock. If Event Horizon reminds you of 40K it's because it has taken inspiration from the same sources.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/22 10:06:39
Subject: Event Horizon
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Trazyn's Museum Curator
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Psienesis wrote:The way you can tell EH is obviously a horror movie in space is because of how the ship looks. It's dark, it's Gothic, it's got sharp edges and spikes all over everything....
... and yet, it's claimed to be a government-funded project. Sorry... if the government had footed the bill to pay for that thing, it'd have been beige, with fluorescent lights in the ceiling, and an OSHA inspector every ten feet telling people to put a guard-rail on every walkway, safety-cages around anything with spikes and, for the love of God, round off those corners! In what could be a zero-G environment in an emergency, you don't want people drifting onto sharp corners!
Yeah, that's one of the things that put me off the movie. The ship is so transparently evul that it kills most of the mystery. The only thing that's left is the gore which is...excessive.
I kinda sniggered when that kid stuck his hand in that black portal. I mean, dude, it's an omninous black hole in a mechanism that just turned itself on for no reason, what did you think was going to happen?
As you can tell, I didn't particularly like Event Horizon that much. Too typical for me.
I have to say though, those flash backs of hell were pretty good. One of the good moments of the film, because mind screw.
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Peace through power!
A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/22 10:39:09
Subject: Event Horizon
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Morphing Obliterator
Elsewhere
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CthuluIsSpy wrote: Psienesis wrote:The way you can tell EH is obviously a horror movie in space is because of how the ship looks. It's dark, it's Gothic, it's got sharp edges and spikes all over everything....
... and yet, it's claimed to be a government-funded project. Sorry... if the government had footed the bill to pay for that thing, it'd have been beige, with fluorescent lights in the ceiling, and an OSHA inspector every ten feet telling people to put a guard-rail on every walkway, safety-cages around anything with spikes and, for the love of God, round off those corners! In what could be a zero-G environment in an emergency, you don't want people drifting onto sharp corners!
Yeah, that's one of the things that put me off the movie. The ship is so transparently evul that it kills most of the mystery. The only thing that's left is the gore which is...excessive.
I assumed the ship turned evil-looking when it went through Hell. Government-funded buildings can turn pretty creepy when abandoned.
Or perhaps we look at it through the eyes of scared people.
Another possibility: someone in the project knew what was going to happen, and the construction involved dark knowledge (thus the spikes).
I kinda sniggered when that kid stuck his hand in that black portal. I mean, dude, it's an omninous black hole in a mechanism that just turned itself on for no reason, what did you think was going to happen?
Yeah that was kinda silly. Still loved the movie though
As you can tell, I didn't particularly like Event Horizon that much. Too typical for me.
I have to say though, those flash backs of hell were pretty good. One of the good moments of the film, because mind screw.
I am curious: name me 5 similar movies (with a similar budget). I can only think of Doom, which is really bad.
The flash-backs were cool, yet a copy-paste from Hellraiser.
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‘Your warriors will stand down and withdraw, Curze. That is an order, not a request. (…) When this campaign is won, you and I will have words’
Rogal Dorn, just before taking the beating of his life.
from The Dark King, by Graham McNeill.
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