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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/18 01:36:31
Subject: Do different factions play differently or is it mostly due to model selection?
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
Wales: Where the Men are Men and the sheep are Scared.
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In some games the faction you choose tends to have a reasonable effect on your playstyle. One faction may be very fast another use close combat another likes spot shoot from a distance. Is this the case in infinity. If so would it be possible to give a brief description of how each faction plays.
Otherwise would it be possible for you to give a brief description of your list and why you play it in a way that someone who has never played the game can understand. For example instead of listing attack values just say they are hard hitters, instead of movement values say they are quick and you value the ability to reposition etc.
Thanks in advance.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/18 02:53:09
Subject: Re:Do different factions play differently or is it mostly due to model selection?
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Camouflaged Zero
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They're pretty different so maybe try this one
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/556384.page
I play nomads, specifically corriegidor (a sub-faction if you will). I didn't really choose it based on a play style they have, more so due to liking the models in that faction and the story behind them. I imagine for alot of others its a similar case. Plus when I was starting the sectorial army box for corregidor had just been released so it was hard for others to compete. Ariadna almost got me though.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/04/18 02:57:35
If your attack is going too well, you have walked into an ambush
The easy way is always mined
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/18 02:56:20
Subject: Re:Do different factions play differently or is it mostly due to model selection?
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Sword-Bearing Inquisitorial Crusader
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It's primarily down to model selection although, obviously, different factions have different units available to them.
It's fair to say that all factions have many options available to them, although certain tactics are far better exploited by some factions than others - that said, these tactics tend not to include the close combat or shooting from a distance examples you gave. (Infinity is heavily weighted towards shooting, so getting involved in melee is very situational, even for units that are good at it. You also can't really choose to just sit back and fire, as models can be activated more than once a turn or shoot mid-movement; you'll often find most of your opponent's models are out of your line of sight unless you actually go and find them).
Loosely, in Infinity, choose a force because of how it looks, because you're not too tied in by how it plays.
However, rough guidelines are as follows (and no, I'm not breaking them down into all the "sectorial" sub-factions, which all have their own unique flavours):
- PanOceania get the most fancy tech and the best range of TAGs. They do however have a low Willpower, so have mediocre Doctors, Engineers and Hackers.
- Yu Jing get the biggest range of power armoured Heavy Infantry. They're not presented with any stellar Light Infantry though.
- Ariadna are low tech (so get no power armour, TAGs or hackers), but they get a good range of cheap troops. They can bring a LOT of camouflage to the table.
- Haqqislam get the best elite Light Infantry, as well as the best access to Doctors and other healing (although, like melee, this is also often situational). They don't get a lot of high tech stuff though, with only one middling TAG.
- Nomads get the best remotes and some great hackers, and their TAG selection isn't bad either. Their Heavy Infantry selection is however pretty sparse.
- ALEPH get lots of elite troops, but don't get much cheap stuff. Some great Warband troops though!
- The Combined Army don't get much "basic" stuff either, but they also get the best (or often only) access to some of the nastiest tricks in the game.
- The Tohaa are a newer faction, so have a pretty limited range of anything at the moment. However, they do get to link almost everything into mini-squads (something otherwise restricted to sectorial lists) and, unlike other factions, can mix the types of units in these squads.
That's a very crude round up though.
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2014/04/18 02:57:19
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/18 06:22:16
Subject: Re:Do different factions play differently or is it mostly due to model selection?
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Charging Dragon Prince
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When it comes to hacking I don't find our (PanOceania) WIP to be such decisive factor. Not having cheap infiltrators with repeaters, markers and hacking device + is more restricting.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/04/18 06:23:11
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/18 08:02:36
Subject: Re:Do different factions play differently or is it mostly due to model selection?
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Joined the Military for Authentic Experience
On an Express Elevator to Hell!!
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Think MarcoSkoll has listed a pretty good basic description there.
In your own terminology, any faction can be a hard hitter or move quickly, depending on the units you use. I would probably spend some time looking through the miniature range and seeing what you like the look of - there are some limitations, so if you like the idea of large robots running around killing things, then you probably aren't best of with Ariadne for instance!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/18 12:54:39
Subject: Re:Do different factions play differently or is it mostly due to model selection?
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Leaping Khawarij
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Middling?!
Why Marco? Why no love!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/18 13:04:42
Subject: Re:Do different factions play differently or is it mostly due to model selection?
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Sword-Bearing Inquisitorial Crusader
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@Knight: As true as it is that being able to get repeaters into range is very key for a hacking list, the above is supposed to be a very short round-up.
@Chemical Cutthroat: The Mag is no Jotum, Cutter or Avatar, and suffers from generally being the least manoeuvrable TAG because of its size. So I'd reasonably call it middle of the range.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/18 13:39:58
Subject: Do different factions play differently or is it mostly due to model selection?
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Leaping Khawarij
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I know I know, was just joshin'... hell, mine blows up pretty much every match. If it's not some lucky bugger with an AP HMG it's a surprise Ninja with a monofilament blade.
But I always have fun clunking that big ole' chunk of metal on the table.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/18 15:25:48
Subject: Re:Do different factions play differently or is it mostly due to model selection?
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Sword-Bearing Inquisitorial Crusader
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I'd have a fair amount less against the Mag if it got ARM 9 or such. That wouldn't be enough to make it the toughest TAG, but being tougher than most would make its bulk more palatable. (Also, it's inherently the most rugged TAG design, as taking an ARO in the knee is a lot less of a problem when you have six legs, rather than two).
Still, I'd kinda like to see the model redone in the more angular style Haqqislam have moved onto.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/18 15:28:13
Subject: Do different factions play differently or is it mostly due to model selection?
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Leaping Khawarij
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Indeed. It sure is BIG... I wish that big-ness translated to some better armor.
It definitely screams of their original design ideas of being inspired by Ghost in the Shell. I love the rugged bug, but if they do decide to update it I'll just... have two!
That I can never field because it is AVA 1. But hey, I can dream.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/18 16:12:44
Subject: Do different factions play differently or is it mostly due to model selection?
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Dakka Veteran
Devon, UK
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It's also got the lowest SWC of any equivalent TAG.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/18 16:54:26
Subject: Re:Do different factions play differently or is it mostly due to model selection?
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Sword-Bearing Inquisitorial Crusader
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True, but the Mag already represents a large amount of a force and Haqqislam is predominantly an LI faction (and thus pay discount SWC prices for special weapons).
The way I write lists, I'm more likely to not have the points to include a Mag than not have the SWC, so its budget SWC price isn't enough to make it great in my mind. I'd rather pay full SWC and have its size actually feel like it's conferring a bonus in game.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/18 18:00:50
Subject: Do different factions play differently or is it mostly due to model selection?
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Leaping Khawarij
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Gotta love that HGL though!
But you're probably right about the list thing. I just tend to play what I think is going to be fun or interesting on the table. So I might lose a lot, but as long as I'm having fun, its all good.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/18 22:15:46
Subject: Do different factions play differently or is it mostly due to model selection?
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
Wales: Where the Men are Men and the sheep are Scared.
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Thanks for the infomation so far guys. Don't expect you to use my terminology it was just the first thing that game to mind but listing stats would be meaningless to me. Tbh I mostly like the look of the SAS guys so will likley start with a list of those.m
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/19 08:42:37
Subject: Do different factions play differently or is it mostly due to model selection?
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Joined the Military for Authentic Experience
On an Express Elevator to Hell!!
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A good choice, sir!
Very effective unit, camouflaged and infiltrating. You can take 2 in a regular Ariadna, 4 if you go for the Caledonian sectoral.
Chemical Cutthroat wrote:Indeed. It sure is BIG... I wish that big-ness translated to some better armor.
It definitely screams of their original design ideas of being inspired by Ghost in the Shell. I love the rugged bug, but if they do decide to update it I'll just... have two!
That I can never field because it is AVA 1. But hey, I can dream.
It's a lovely looking model that's for sure, and yes I think perhaps more popular than you would think thanks to the resemblance to the Ghost in the Shell tank!
Wow, just realised SWC 1 as well, which is pretty mental!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/19 14:36:24
Subject: Do different factions play differently or is it mostly due to model selection?
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Sword-Bearing Inquisitorial Crusader
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Actually, seeing this quote again may have resulted in the line "Oh, my, god. Becky, look at that TAG... It is so big. I can't believe it's just so round." in my head.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/19 14:42:37
Subject: Do different factions play differently or is it mostly due to model selection?
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Leaping Khawarij
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MarcoSkoll wrote:Actually, seeing this quote again may have resulted in the line "Oh, my, god. Becky, look at that TAG... It is so big. I can't believe it's just so round." in my head.
That put the biggest, stupidest smile on my face.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/19 15:03:57
Subject: Do different factions play differently or is it mostly due to model selection?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I play aleph steel phalanx but probably about pick up 250pnts of Corregidor as another faction as I see the way id play it to be a bit different (less links, more templates etc). I only found this out after buying 400 points of aleph I've barely painted
Just grab a starter of the models you really like, making sure you can use it with your other fav models (e.g. pan O sectoral not having a badass cutter etc). Look at some lists and read the read for that armies rules before you buy a lot.
Love my aleph but something about lots of combis and flamethrowers that speaks to my soul.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/20 05:10:47
Subject: Do different factions play differently or is it mostly due to model selection?
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
Wales: Where the Men are Men and the sheep are Scared.
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Gonna have to wait a bit until I get more money or find someone who wants to trade some of my old stuff for some infinity stuff but I am looking forward to building a small force based as much on how they look as how they play.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/20 08:19:29
Subject: Do different factions play differently or is it mostly due to model selection?
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Dakka Veteran
Devon, UK
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/21 06:44:24
Subject: Do different factions play differently or is it mostly due to model selection?
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
Wales: Where the Men are Men and the sheep are Scared.
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That may be useful thanks
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