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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/21 16:59:16
Subject: Competitive 2,000 IG
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Bounding Black Templar Assault Marine
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HQ
CCS, 70
- Autocannon
Troops
Infantry Platoon, 320
- PCS, 4 Flamers, Taurox (110)
- Infantry Squad, 1 Autocannon, Taurox (110)
- Infantry Squad, 1 Autocannon, Taurox (110)
Infantry Platoon, 320
- PCS, 4 Flamers, Taurox (110)
- Infantry Squad, 1 Autocannon, Taurox (110)
- Infantry Squad, 1 Autocannon, Taurox (110)
Infantry Platoon, 320
- PCS, 4 Flamers, Taurox (110)
- Infantry Squad, 1 Autocannon, Taurox (110)
- Infantry Squad, 1 Autocannon, Taurox (110)
Infantry Platoon, 320
- PCS, 4 Flamers, Taurox (110)
- Infantry Squad, 1 Autocannon, Taurox (110)
- Infantry Squad, 1 Autocannon, Taurox (110)
Fast Attack
Vendetta, 170
Vendetta, 170
Vendetta, 170
Fortifications
Aegis Defence Lines - 100
- Quad- Gun emplacement
2,000
15 Vehicles, 105 infantry
Shots per turn:
9 TL Lascannons
28 TL Autocannons (24 Auto + 4 Quad)
8 Autocannon
16 Flamers
I don't plan on actually running this list as it would probably hit the £500 mark but was just curious to what could be done with the new codex. What do you guys think? Comments and criticism welcome.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/04/21 17:29:20
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/21 19:09:10
Subject: Competitive 2,000 IG
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Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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Why the CCS out in the open? Or do they go in a Vendetta in which case why the autocannon rather than perhaps the 4 flamers of the platoon or better yet 4 plasmas. 4 twinlinked ignoring cover plasmaguns seems the only reason to take the CCS over the Tank Commander.
You've got quite mediocre firepower for 2k guard and not huge survivability. Sure 12 Tauroxes is alot and 15 vehicles is a decent number but I just think you'd be better of with Vets in this type of list with some Wyverns in Support and Command squads and/or Scions in the 'Dettas. You can still have 15+ vehicles but lots more killing power. Automatically Appended Next Post: Something like this. Yes less Autocannons but far more AT and low Ap. Plus ludicrous amounts more AI:
CCS: 4 plasmaguns 120
CCS: 4 plasmaguns 120
Psyker 50
Veterans: 2 Meltas, Taurox 130
Veterans: 2 Meltas, Taurox 130
Veterans: 2 Meltas, Taurox 130
Veterans: 2 Plasmaguns, Taurox 140
Veterans: 2 Plasmaguns, Taurox 140
Veterans: 2 Plasmaguns, Taurox 140
Vendetta 170
Vendetta 170
Vendetta 170
3 Wyverns: 195
3 Wyverns: 195
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/21 19:56:16
Subject: Competitive 2,000 IG
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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I personally don't like the Taurox, so I don't really like the list.
Worst case scenario:
Just imagine this. Your opponent has a Riptide. Riptide gets buffed with markerlights and given tank hunter with a buffmander.
So this Riptide, again imagining the worst possible case scenario, is eyeing 3-4 Tauroxes that are bunched up on a flank, trying to get around a building or piece of terrain thats got an objective nearby. Said Riptide gets Str 9 AP2 Ion Accelerator pie plate right in the middle of this group of Tauroxes. Lets even say that it hit the front armor on all of these little guys (and they are easy to bunch up since they are so small). That thing is penning on 3's, rerolling due to TH, and rolling 2 dice taking the highest tanks thanks to Ordnance. Even on that front armor 11, thats potentially 2 or 3 dead vehicles, his riptide nearly made his points back including explosion casualties (which is made more likely due to ap2). That was in one single round of shooting. Thats a scary prospect IMO.
Again this is/was for fun, a probably absolutely worst case scenario. But something made likely if you really want to take mass Tauroxes. Manticores, Necron death rays, Wraithknights, etc could produce similar results.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/04/21 20:15:57
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/21 21:35:39
Subject: Competitive 2,000 IG
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Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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3-4 Tauroxes under 1 template? If you allow that then you deserve what you get. But lets say you hit 3 you have 80 in 81 chance of penetrating if you've got off your Nova charge and Gets Hot! And then hit. 3 pens is not 3 kills it is 1 kill on average due to Ap2.
The Taurox is the best transport in the AM Codex. Yes it can die easily but it is cheap has decent firepower (for its points) and has 4 firepoints. You don't bunch up because you have no reason to. You don't need to go to Tau as you can out range them, let alone anyone else.
But his army would struggle to worry a Riptide certainly Triptide or any of the Deathstars. Basically he could do OK against Serpent Spam or light Mech Spam but doesn't have the damage output to worry other competitive builds.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/22 01:04:13
Subject: Competitive 2,000 IG
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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I disagree that the Taurox is the best transport in the AM Codex. I feel like in the current meta of mass str 6 and 7 that AV12 makes a world of difference.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/22 08:52:37
Subject: Competitive 2,000 IG
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Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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Where as actually the mass of S6 & S7 means that in game terms AV12 dies just as quickly as AV11 in most cases. The Taurox having the advantage of being able to take advantage of cover better (I know there's a lot of ignores cover but if he's wasting that firepower on humble Tauroxes all the better).
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