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Boba Fett? Is this a reboot? Boba Fett's dead. Me confused.

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H.B.M.C. wrote:
Sure must be awesome to be one of the writers that spend years working on SW now that all that work will be thrown out in favour of the JJ Abhrams mystery box.

Is this the same guy who took a dump on Wrath of Khan with his incoherent version?

EDIT: If its not a reboot - thats fine. If he's gong back to old characters thats not good.

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Bromsy wrote:
I know it'll never happen because LIGHTSABER BATTLES ... but I'd like Jedi to go back to being mysterious, wise dudes who go around solving problems instead of LIGHTSABER BATTLING everything.

Plus retcon some of the 'we take kids from their parents when they are like three and train them to never ever feel emotion or have human connections because we are a creepy ass cult' vibe that the prequels gave them.

.... actually now that I think about it, I just want movies that don't completely revolve around a jedi. Make the jedi an ancillary character or something.

Agreed. SW movies were best when "jedi" were just one story among many. Less is more.
Star Wars - Jedi fight without a lot opf flash and of course "trust your feelings Luke"
TESB - some training and epic cool fight at the end but only one story of effectively three.
ROTJ - editing out the furbies and most of the movie is a 1930s serial action.

Lets go back to that.

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reds8n wrote:

The Star Wars team is thrilled to announce the cast of Star Wars: Episode VII.

Actors John Boyega, Daisy Ridley, Adam Driver, Oscar Isaac, Andy Serkis, Domhnall Gleeson, and Max von Sydow will join the original stars of the saga, Harrison Ford, Carrie Fisher, Mark Hamill, Anthony Daniels, Peter Mayhew, and Kenny Baker in the new film.

Director J.J. Abrams says, "We are so excited to finally share the cast of Star Wars: Episode VII. It is both thrilling and surreal to watch the beloved original cast and these brilliant new performers come together to bring this world to life, once again. We start shooting in a couple of weeks, and everyone is doing their best to make the fans proud."

Star Wars: Episode VII is being directed by J.J. Abrams from a screenplay by Lawrence Kasdan and Abrams. Kathleen Kennedy, J.J. Abrams, and Bryan Burk are producing, and John Williams returns as the composer

Max Von Sydow. Cool I thought he was dead.
Andy Serkis? I have visions of Gollum as the Emperor.

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Paradigm wrote:
Easy E wrote:
Paradigm wrote:
Andy Serkis is the only name in that list I recognise (With the exception of the old guys, of course). Is it just me being out of touch, or have they really just gone an started making a film with complete unknowns?

I mean, do they really expect this to ride on the title and old actors alone?

MAX VON SYDOW! He's got to be a Sith Lord or something.

I just looked him up after my dad told be he was quite famous, and then struggled for 5 minutes to actually name something he was in. The only thing on his list of credits I've seen is Skyrim.

Still, he does seem to be a big name.

Exorcist. Thats all you need right there.

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I would make no assumptions other than:

1. Han, Da Princess and Skywalker will appear in some fashion.

2. Andy Serkis and Max "I look badass in red" Sydow will steal all their scenes.

Everything else is up in the air. Maybe Cumberbatch Khan will appear...

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I'm sure Serkis is saying "gee I've been in six blockbuster movies now, how bout you guys?"

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And then Kong stepped on him...

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There was nothing in second movie he was respectful about, including a coherent plot.

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Bromsy wrote:
Medium of Death wrote:
Ahtman wrote:
timetowaste85 wrote:
I loved Into Darkness too. Oh well, can't please everyone.

I find it one of those movies I enjoy when I watch it, but if I think about it afterward it gets on my nerves. On Bluray 3D it looks amazing.

Prometheus syndrome.

It's Avatar Syndrome, because that has to be the poster child for that. The whole time I was watching it in IMAX 3d I was all "Whoa this is amazing!" I'd bet 99+% of people get so caught up in the visuals and everything that it is basically impossible to criticize whilst in the theater.

Then I got home and was talking about it with my buddy and we realized just how pandering, manipulative and two dimensional it was. Still looks amazing, though.

I fell asleep during Avatar. It bored me to tears.

Original ST was an exploration vessel. However its forgotten the Enterprise was classed as a battle cruiser (at least by the klingons

). Everything about the movie Enterprise and other Fed ships screams heavy cruiser.

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True fact, Kirk (or his stuntmen) have never lost a fight one on one, with anyone or anything, including Vger.

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IIRC, the rumor was that in the original draft, Luke, Leia and Han were minor characters. In this new draft, they're more prominent, because Abrams wants to give those characters a proper curtain call before the focus shifts to the younger cast members in future installments.

That works for me in a big way. As long as no one

s with the fastest hunk of junk in the galaxy!

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P.S. - Sisko is the best captain.

*Best negotiator: Picard.
*Best ship to ship and close combat specialist: Kirk
*Best Commander to stand toe to toe against evil space nazis (as long as you keep him focused and not wandering off on some god complex thing) - Sisko.
*Captain most likely to pull the ship over and ask for directions: Janeway.
*Voted best captain by Team Wienie? Porthos. Team Wienie really liked Porthos and his second in command Captain Archer.
*Best Captain to go barhopping with-Worf. You will be almost guaranteed to have at least one duel to the death, and a head butting contest. Just watch out when he starts talking about prune juice.

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Grey Templar wrote:
Back to Star Wars...

Apparently we now know the working Title. "The Ancient Fear"

Thoughts?

Sounds like my toilet.

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Well there were two Sith in the original trilogy. One used a sabre in two movies, the iconic two movies I'll add. Da Spazz Emprah using purple gak was new. I'd hardly say there was some subtle change there with the prequels.

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Manchu wrote:
It's hard to figure out what you mean. Could you rephrase?

Sorry I was on a call at the same time.

In the original series there were two Sith bad guys. The one we saw and loved in the two first films used a saber, and there was no hint that that was out of place (only that the Sith themselves were out of place as part of a dead religion...) . The Jedi could do everything that the Bad Guy could do, and vice versa. It was only in ROTJ that a bad guy could do something different - of course we didn't know if Yoda or others could do such, or even if that purple gak was because of Da Schwartz.

So no, forget the EU or whatever, the prequels birthed many nightmares, but saber wielding Sith being wrong was not one of them.

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Manchu wrote:
We learned that Vader was a fallen Jedi before we saw him pull out a lightsaber. We heard no such thing about the Emperor and therefore were not surprised that he didn't have one. As Obi-Wan (in ANH) and the Emperor (in RotJ) both mention, a lightsaber is the weapon of a Jedi. So when we see the Emperor shoot lightning around, we can surmise he does so rather than using a lightsaber because he is not a Jedi. He also narrates the lightning trick as the power of the dark side, which is something Jedi in good standing don't mess with according to Yoda.

It also pays to remember that we did not know the Emperor was Sith until long after RotJ. In fact, we had no idea what "Dark Lord of the Sith" meant until the mid-90s (largely thanks to Dark Horse comics).

Well I can certainly say it surprised hell out of me when I saw it.
Like the choking there's no reason to think he couldn't use a sword. But he's the emprah. he's got people for that.
Interesting that Yoda didn't warn him about that...minor detail.

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Manchu wrote:
Did you really not watch the Clone Wars?

Are you talking about the kid's cartoon?

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OK. I didn't know what you were talking about.

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Manchu wrote:
I mean the CGI ones, not the Samurai Jack ones.

The CGI ones are on balance pretty outstanding (although there are problems, too) and superior in just about every way to the prequels.

Samurai Jack ones? Er, now I am confused.

If it helps I did see the Christmas special years ago with a whole planet of wookies...

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Ahtman wrote:
Manchu wrote:
Did you really not watch the Clone Wars?

I did not. The prequels killed much of any love I had for the series. I understand they are better, but the damage has been done; I am dead inside now.

I can verify this. He's dead inside.

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Manchu wrote:
Ahtman wrote:
I am dead inside now.
As someone who's been there, my path to recovery was finding one element that I thought Lucas got completely right.

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Frazzled wrote:
Samurai Jack ones? Er, now I am confused.
This one and its second season.

As opposed to the CGI one.

Thanks! I never knew those existed.

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but it was recycled from Ben Hur which did it first and did it better.

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d-usa wrote:
You just like Ben Hur because you were an extra...

I was the third horse, to the left.

EDIT: the only time we should see Tatooine is if:
1. Fremen appear riding freaking sandworms and start wasting the galaxy.
2. Someone glasses the planet exterminatus style.

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d-usa wrote:
Do you revisit your glory days by holding dachshund-chariot races?

Tiny Wiener dog Triumphs actually. TBone always looked replendant in his purple toga.

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d-usa wrote:
Has this been posted:

http://spinoff.comicbookresources.com/2014/06/03/millennium-falcon-revealed-in-latest-star-wars-episode-vii-set-photos/

Actually this lowers my appreciation for the film. The Falcon and Xwings? Are they moving forward or doing another stupid revision?

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Gitzbitah wrote:
That's not an X-Wing, Frazz. The nose is too short, and X-wings have intakes on both of their wings, not one large intake. It looks like someone took an X-wing and advanced it. Their wings also meet flush not the one blaster in front, one behind overlap that this ship displays.

Good catch! I didn't look too closely until you said something. That is very big news indeed, much larger than the Ubiquitous Falcon!

X wings had one round intake that split when the wings split. Its an X wing. It may not be 1976 X Wing but its an X wing.
However, as you note it may be X Wing 2.0 or someone's old jallopy brought out (I like that idea, the old guys keep their old cool rides). I hope you're right.

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Just checked google images. You're right!

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Wait...what...er...wa????

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d-usa wrote:
I thought we already knew what happened to his hand?

Thats good. Thats real good.